$100nl - Bet or Check/Call River?

Villain is 18/10/3.8

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($106.40)
MP2 ($57.40)
MP3 ($82.60)
CO ($100.55)
Button ($153.40)
SB ($23)
BB ($36.30)
Hero ($100)
UTG+1 ($106.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
Hero raises to $4, 5 folds, Button calls $4, 2 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button calls $8.

Turn: ($25.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $18, Button calls $18.

River: ($61.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero ...

I think it's kind of obvious that villain has either the nut flush draw or the nut flush and so this should be a check/call. Am I missing anything?

Check only if you know he'll bet, then call him.
Betting out is best if you have a read that he'll call you down. Unless villain has a made flush, in which case he'll be raising you here...


I think I like check/call here more.

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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Check only if you know he'll bet, then call him.
Betting out is best if you have a read that he'll call you down. Unless villain has a made flush, in which case he'll be raising you here...

I think I like check/call here more.

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That's what I'm saying, I don't think he calls unless he has something like the fluke AA-QQ with the flush draw which seems extremely unlikely given the preflop action.

Just wondering if I'm missing anything like other possible hands he could have.

question what does this mean:

Villain is 18/10/3.8

I know it refers to the PT stats right but what exactly? I feel like a noob asking it.

VP$IP%/PFR%/AF

I c/c as well 'cause I don't want to call a raise/push.

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Originally Posted by Warpe

VP$IP%/PFR%/AF

I c/c as well 'cause I don't want to call a raise/push.

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Do you call a push after checking?

depends on my read on opp...a push will often be a bluff, but pushing the nuts is the all the rage these days...there's not enough read to say

thinktank
did you see villain push and showdown the nuts earlier?
or did you see him bet for value?

/AF = ???

Edit: nevermind aggression factor right?

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Originally Posted by shysti

/AF = ???

Edit: nevermind aggression factor right?

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Right.

Anything I knew about his recent showdowns I can't recall at the moment.

I check/called about 3/4ths of the pot and he had A9 with the nut draw.

bet/fold
or
bet/call

dont check/call

he doesnt just have the nut flush draw or nut flush.

I like bet/fold.

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

he doesnt just have the nut flush draw or nut flush.

I like bet/fold.

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Explain? I don't know of any other hands that call two bets here without raising or folding or something.

P.S. I probably should have said high flush/high flush draw instead of nut, it's what I was thinking when I typed it.

bet/fold and bet/call are wayy much better than c/c

reasoning is he will put you on a missed Acx or Kcx and call with a pair or two, and if he raises you can either:

1)call because hes a lagtard maniac
2)fold b/c he'd never bluff on this board

You miss a lot of value with c/c

i'm a fan of b/f here

Yeah, I bet/fold. Weaker still calls sometimes, and only stronger hands raise.

If we bet, what would be a proper betsize?

$25 is good. $30 works too.

I vote $31 b/f here.

i still like a c/c if you bet your draws normally.