fold a river boat, what you think

Villan el Duivel is tight.

he raised me in a previous hand and showed the nuts

i dont think im beating him here, how bout you

PokerStars Game #11746889832: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/08/28 - 20:37:19 (ET)
Table 'Gudy II' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: tripschaos ($214 in chips)
Seat 2: Tenven ($117.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mind4mind ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: sddakoty ($21.50 in chips)
Seat 5: clifflonglll ($18.70 in chips)
Seat 6: ryguy227 ($75 in chips)
Seat 7: el Duivel ($146.20 in chips)
Seat 8: markkin ($69.45 in chips)
el Duivel: posts small blind $0.50
markkin: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tripschaos [8d 8s]
tripschaos: calls $1
Tenven: folds
mind4mind: folds
sddakoty: folds
clifflonglll: folds
ryguy227: folds
el Duivel: calls $0.50
markkin: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jc Th]
el Duivel: checks
markkin: checks
tripschaos: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd Jc Th] [8c]
el Duivel: bets $3
markkin: raises $6 to $9
tripschaos: calls $9
el Duivel: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Kd Jc Th 8c] [Tc]
el Duivel: checks
markkin: checks
tripschaos: bets $20
el Duivel: raises $55 to $75
markkin: folds
tripschaos: folds
el Duivel collected $67 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $70 | Rake $3
Board [Kd Jc Th 8c Tc]
Seat 1: tripschaos folded on the River
Seat 2: Tenven folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mind4mind folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: sddakoty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: clifflonglll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ryguy227 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: el Duivel (small blind) collected ($67)
Seat 8: markkin (big blind) folded on the River

If you felt you were beat, you were beat. On this board, I'd trust the read. Could easily go either way (straight... or tens full). Hmm... now that I notice the river completed a flush draw, and villain is STILL raising... I think he's either flush / tens full with probability towards tens full. I mean, he's a nit, right?

I'm not folding here. KT/JT/9c7c beats you. That's three hands.

Depending on villain, TT raises for value pf.

*Warning* I am a donkament player that will be switching to ring once I get my roll up. My advice might not be good here.


With that said I think this is a call. You said opp was tight, but was he aggressive? If he is then he may be betting a FD on turn (Acxc). If he is passive he might have Q9 and flopped a straight trying to maximize value by slowplaying.

This could also be AT, QT, T9, T8 (maybe).

There are a lot of hands that complete here and have a line like this that makes this a call.

never ever ever ever ever fold here are you KIDDING

If you folded I'm going to E-stab you. The real question is whether to push or not.

I think the chance of him holding a flush are quite high. I don't think I fold this.

Noooooooooooooooooooo! I never fold in this spot. There are too many hands that he could have that you beat (flush, str8). The only question I would ask myself is call or push. Never fold.

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Originally Posted by djzcko

Noooooooooooooooooooo! I never fold in this spot. There are too many hands that he could have that you beat (flush, str8). The only question I would ask myself is call or push. Never fold.

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Good

It's incorrect to fold. The only question is whether to raise or call.