1-2 NL live, Decent players, i got2 pairs, damn, 3 pairs

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08-08-2007, 10:04 PM
SHAKE

1-2 NL live, Decent players, i got2 pairs, damn, 3 pairs

ok so toay im playing 1-2 nl at some crappy casino in WI.

I get dealt the power of 5:h:-2:s: in the BB and check a 4-way pot

flop comes

5:c: 2:c: 8:c:

With 3 behind i decide to check and se what unfolds pot is 9 dollars (2+2+2+1+2)

Laggy but solid texan (hat and all) fires 10 and 2 folds back to me

Heres my analasys.

He cold have a large club j:c: + Top pair with an A or a conector (this guy isnt reall playing K8 Q8.....Im 90% he dosent have a made fluh for 2 reaons

1. He raises sooted cards he plays pf

2. He slowplays big flops

I consider raising but i only have 80 behind so i call to see a turn.

8:d: wow it pretty much the single worst card in the deck for me

Board is 5:c: 2:c: 8:c: 8:d:

I decide i cant check as he will bet any 2 in that spot and probly bet big (pot or larger) so i fire 16, he raises to 35... hero??

(do you check here givin my reads and analasys? bet more et less or as played?)
08-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Fnord

How deep is the money?

Turn is an easy Check/fold.
08-09-2007, 01:40 AM
SHAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

How deep is the money?

Turn is an easy Check/fold.

i have 80 behind h has 200. Said i had 80 in og post. I figured i might ge him off the club. thats why i bet. No?
08-09-2007, 02:24 AM
BeeJall

I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.
08-09-2007, 07:23 AM
TLR

I would bet the flop, as played I check/fold the turn
08-09-2007, 07:24 AM
TLR

BTW he could easily have a hand like 66,77,99
08-09-2007, 12:51 PM
SHAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeJall

I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.

Because i have 80 beind, i i c/r the flop im commited no matter what comes on he turn

As far as leading i have player behind e an i cant realy stand a large raise, if i do, again im commited on the turn.

I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat. If he calls then i can saly put him on a club.

no e cnt have a set, i stated b4 he had been lowplaying big flops.
08-09-2007, 07:27 PM
BeeJall

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeJall

I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.

Because i have 80 beind, i i c/r the flop im commited no matter what comes on he turn

As far as leading i have player behind e an i cant realy stand a large raise, if i do, again im commited on the turn.

I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat. If he calls then i can saly put him on a club.

no e cnt have a set, i stated b4 he had been lowplaying big flops.

That's why I'm leading out instead of c/c, if there's a big raise behind you, I'd be happy to get it all in there at a 1/2 live game, there's so many hands they're calling with that you beat. That's just how i'm playing it so i don;t have a tougher decision on the turn.
08-09-2007, 11:25 PM
SHAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeJall

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeJall

I'm definitely leading out on the flop or check raising here. If you think he might have a big club why are you letting him see a cheap turn? once the turn comes I wouldn't be putting anymore money in.

Because i have 80 beind, i i c/r the flop im commited no matter what comes on he turn

As far as leading i have player behind e an i cant realy stand a large raise, if i do, again im commited on the turn.

I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat. If he calls then i can saly put him on a club.

no e cnt have a set, i stated b4 he had been lowplaying big flops.

That's why I'm leading out instead of c/c, if there's a big raise behind you, I'd be happy to get it all in there at a 1/2 live game, there's so many hands they're calling with that you beat. That's just how i'm playing it so i don;t have a tougher decision on the turn.

Yeah, i mean i undrstand the arguement, the post you quoed was more of an explnation for wyi led the turn, not why i checked the flop.

I suppose after some poker stove, this is in fact, the correct mathmatical line. Its just pure ev. Unfortunatly i guess i out thouht myelf and tryed to take a "safer" route.

Any of you ever fall into that? Playing a ittle more passivly from OOP when there are potential big draws agist you hand?
08-09-2007, 11:31 PM
Fnord

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Originally Posted by SHAKE

I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat.

It doesn't matter, your hand went to crap you're out of position and it's not a very big pot. Betting the turn gets called by a lot of hands that have you drawing pretty much dead (as well as weak draws) as he probaby will wait for the river if he thinks he has a lock.
08-09-2007, 11:33 PM
SHAKE

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Originally Posted by Fnord

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Originally Posted by SHAKE

I diddnt checking as an option as i felt he would bet any 2 if i did, this way if he raiesim 99% sure im beat.

It doesn't matter, your hand went to crap you're out of position and it's not a very big pot. Betting the turn gets called by a lot of hands that have you drawing pretty much dead (as well as weak draws) as he probaby will wait for the river if he thinks he has a lock.

yeah i get it.

Whoops mistakerdoodle.