Donktastic?

Villain is somewhat tight preflop, that is all I know.
If he's paying attention, he will notice that this is the first time I have 3bet at this table, and that I am playing fairly tight.


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
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5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $100.00
CO: $187.00
Hero: $109.90
SB: $132.10
BB: $98.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with T :spade: A :diamond:
UTG folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, SB folds, BB calls, CO folds.

Flop: J :club: 9 :spade: 2 :club: ($27.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: Q :heart: ($27.5, 2 players)
BB bets $18, Hero calls.

River: T :club: ($63.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero is all-in $79.9

Pretty donktastic.

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Originally Posted by euphoricism

Pretty donktastic.

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+1

i like it if hes decent, hate if hes not folding a set

I don't see why not. Pot seems worth fighting for

i like vs someone who knows how to fold, but how many people will fold top set here at this level??

villain prob made a set on river so I wouldn't try to push him off it

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Originally Posted by gabe

i like vs someone who knows how to fold, but how many people will fold top pair here at this site??

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Secondary question, does pushing the river look bluffy?

Ni Han.

I think half-pot does the trick against a lot of opponents though.

I like it. I also prefer a push since pushing reps AK and maybe KK whereas I dont think he'll believe you have AK as often if you only half pot. (since AK wants value from a single K).

How tight is "somewhat tight"?

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Originally Posted by Pelion

I dont think he'll believe you have AK as often if you only half pot.

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It only costs half as much for the same sized pot.

Wah. I really don't understand this hand. Just when poker was starting to make sense. I don't understand what we are repping on the river that doesn't bet the flop? (or turn) Please help so I can sleep at night. If you're repping AK surely you don't make a point of not C-betting?

C-betting AK on every missed flop was so two years ago....

Thats a really good flop to check behind with pretty much anything that missed. Also Fnord youre probably right. He definatly doesnt believe a half pot bet as often but its probably not even close to half as often. Might balence nicer though.

Yeah, I think half-pot vs shove comes down to your table image and what you know about how your game and/or opponent plays.

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Originally Posted by Pelion

Thats a really good flop to check behind with pretty much anything that missed. Also Fnord youre probably right. He definatly doesnt believe a half pot bet as often but its probably not even close to half as often. Might balence nicer though.

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Newbie-question:

I am just a 50$-donk, but isn't it standard making a cbet when 3-betting, at least when u say its your first 3-bet and u have been playing fairly tight? Or is it harder for him to believe u to have a big pocket pair since the 3-bet was from the button?

Looks pretty good, looks like you're representing AK on the river.

Except checking the flop and calling the turn with only a gutshot (if you had AK)
doesn't really seem to represent AK that combined with a shove after villian has checked the river (showed potential weakness) ie. a move more likely to to induce a fold than a call means that a thinking player might look you up with a lot & on such a scary board there is also a lot that villian could have to look you up with + AK/Flush himself.

Edit: I think my post sort of makes sense but in a real time situation without that much time to think I would fold alot acually if I was villian, thinking you must have a monster to shove on a board that is certain to have hit me pretty hard.

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Originally Posted by Andypandy

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Originally Posted by Pelion

Thats a really good flop to check behind with pretty much anything that missed. Also Fnord youre probably right. He definatly doesnt believe a half pot bet as often but its probably not even close to half as often. Might balence nicer though.

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Newbie-question:

I am just a 50$-donk, but isn't it standard making a cbet when 3-betting, at least when u say its your first 3-bet and u have been playing fairly tight? Or is it harder for him to believe u to have a big pocket pair since the 3-bet was from the button?

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A relatively tight player cold calls my 3-bet OOP. The only hand he is folding to a cbet on this flop is TT and AK. At least that's what I was thinking at the time.
I figured that a c-bet on this flop in this situation would be spew. Better off taking a free card and hoping it improves me a bit.