passives bluff, too

i cant believe this. i've started to notice an alarming trend. those that are passive post-flop...BLUFF when they bet. i didnt think this was true the first time i caught it, but i'm starting to see it alot. maybe its like when you buy a new car...suddenly, you see THAT car all over the place. but...

nobody take this as gospel, just watch for it. if you have some stories/hands to prove this theory true...let me have them.

my theory is this: they NEVER bet when they have a hand. the more passive they are post-flop, the more likely they are to be on a bluff. they just dont do it very often...because they have no friggin clue about when to bet or bluff or anything. maybe their image buys them a lot of bluffs, and they start doing this as part of their regular pattern.

heres a hand from tonight.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.70 BB) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 13.70 BB

this guy showed Jh7h.

this guy was VERY loose pf, and aggressive. he was 40/20...but had an AF of .7 thats right .7! once the flop hit, he was done with the hand. i usually give these types a lot of credit when they bet...since they rarely do. but this is exactly what i've seen lately. when they get super-aggro, its usually total air...and they are trying to get by on image...or they just suck...dont know for sure.

sure he had a draw on the turn. but what the hell was with the action on the flop? and a cap? i only capped to see if i could beat him into his usual submission, and check it down.

Re: passives bluff, too

[quote="Chopper"]my theory is this: they NEVER bet when they have a hand. the more passive they are post-flop, the more likely they are to be on a bluff. they just dont do it very often...because they have no friggin clue about when to bet or bluff or anything. maybe their image buys them a lot of bluffs, and they start doing this as part of their regular pattern.

Some players are probably like this.

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this guy showed Jh7h.

This guy was just retarded.

i agree that he is retarded, but just watch how MANY of them are...

i'm just saying a passive is not betting a strong hand as often as we think.

Then they are not passive players Chopper they are idiots.