2 Hands nl100

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($101.50)
Button ($132.05)
SB ($100.05)
BB ($45.15)
UTG ($112.45)
MP ($532.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB calls $5, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($18.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB bets $39.15 (All-In), UTG calls $39.15, Hero raises to $95.5, UTG calls $56.35.

Turn: ($248.65) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($248.65) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $248.65

UTG 61/9 Af 0.48
BB ??/??

2)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($79)
BB ($160.25)
UTG ($100)
MP ($298.60)
CO ($108.15)
Hero ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP bets $9, Hero calls $9.

Turn: ($27.50) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP bets $24, Hero raises to $85.5, MP calls $61.50.

River: ($198.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $198.50

MP 22/13 Af 1.7

comments plz

i like 1 if we assume UTG sucks.
2 looks standard, but we either sucked out or he turned up with JJ.

Both look standard to me without reads.

I mostly like both. I don't kow if I would have called the flop in 2)
Would you have semi-bluff-pushed if a 9 or club hits on the turn?

I think that i would have pushed if a club came on the turn.

For some reason I don't like hand 1. BB is weird. I think there's someone with AA or KK (BB?), and the other one is drawing. I would fold the flop really without thinking.

Hand 2 is standard yes.

folding in 1 on flop is just wrong.

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Originally Posted by Miffed22001

folding in 1 on flop is just wrong.

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Could you elaborate? What hand ranges do you put villains on? IMO any straight or flush draw could very well be bad for us, and I wouldn't be very surprised if BB holds KK or AA.

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Originally Posted by minSim

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Originally Posted by Miffed22001

folding in 1 on flop is just wrong.

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Could you elaborate? What hand ranges do you put villains on? IMO any straight or flush draw could very well be bad for us, and I wouldn't be very surprised if BB holds KK or AA.

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AA and KK are pretty much never showing up here, IMO. From half stacks, this could be anything from middle pair to any of the many draws that flopped. I'm always happy to get my money in with an overpair against a shorty. In my experience, he shows up here a lot with QT, maybe 98 etc.

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Originally Posted by minSim

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Originally Posted by Miffed22001

folding in 1 on flop is just wrong.

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Could you elaborate? What hand ranges do you put villains on? IMO any straight or flush draw could very well be bad for us, and I wouldn't be very surprised if BB holds KK or AA.

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he has 45bbs. Anyone who bought in like this/didnt reaload is an assumed donk until known otherwise, and an overpair is a definite hand to stack off with against this guy.
He could flip AK/JJ just as much as 55 here as well as AA/KK, our equity is just too good considering the bigger % chance he absolutly sucks balls at poker.

In hand 1 the open-shove is suspect from a shorty, I'd say. Usually with two pre-flop raisers to play a check/push would be expected from a set.
This smells like a combo-draw to me, if BB is thinking, which could well mean we could even be dog here, but we have to call.

That UTG flat calls would really worry me if they're aware because they're making no attempt to isolate the BB. But since there's a stronger chance that they're just a calling station it's probably okay to push and hope that as often as you're behind the BB you're ahead of the UTG.

Hand 2:
Without a clear plan I like neither the flat call pre-flop with TT nor the calling of a PSB on that flop. I think playing TT is a natural 3-bet pre-flop and that raising the flop to get a cheap showdown is valid.

thx for the help in this this hands i did not realy know how to play them well.