Some AA multiway fun

fairly new to the table, no real reads

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
http://www.legopoker.com/hh


MP: $58.50
CO: $55.75
Hero (BTN): $56.85
SB: $65.3
BB: $19.45
UTG: $41.60
Preflop: Ac Ah ($0.75, 6 players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50

Flop: 2c Td 6d ($10, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $6, SB folds, BB raises all in to $17.95, UTG calls $17.95, MP folds, Hero: ?

Maybe this is really simple. But I don't know. That's why I need your help : ).

I think the BB has a set and the other one has a diamond draw? You are getting over 3:1 odds but I had a post like this earlier and I was told to fold if I figured I was beat although the odds were there. You could always call and hope to build a side pot with the other player and break even! :lol: Pros will chime in

This is really close but I feel like folding.

If you had the Ad I'd call.

I shoved. I figured I was up against a flush draw, top pair, or a set from each player. If it was a draw or top pair I wanted to get my money in on the flop. If it was a set I wanted to fold. To be honest, I didn't see it as a call or fold situation. It seems like the hands I beat, I want to push all in right here. So I viewed it as a push or fold situation. Is that a really bad way to look at this sort of thing?

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Originally Posted by cjs55

I shoved. I figured I was up against a flush draw, top pair, or a set from each player. If it was a draw or top pair I wanted to get my money in on the flop. If it was a set I wanted to fold. To be honest, I didn't see it as a call or fold situation. It seems like the hands I beat, I want to push all in right here. So I viewed it as a push or fold situation. Is that a really bad way to look at this sort of thing?

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It's fine.

The problem is that UTG's line seems either very weak or very strong. Even when it's very weak (flushdraw-type hand) you're not a huge favourite. Obv we're not worried about shorty.

Just another one of those situations where, without reads, it doesn't really matter one way or another. After looking at it again I like the shove a little more. That's just such a huge cold-call by utg... It has me scared just reading the HH.

raise a bit more preflop?

Yeah, raising to 2.50 would have been much better.

Here's how it turned out

Flop: 2c Td 6d ($10, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $6, SB folds, BB raises all in to $17.95, UTG calls $17.95, MP folds, Hero raises all in to $54.85, UTG calls all in for $21.65
Uncalled bet of $15.25 returned to Hero

Hero shows [Ac Ah]
BB shows [As Jc] (nice)
UTG shows [6h 6s]

Turn: 2c Td 6d [3h] ($107.15, 3 players)
No action

River: 2c Td 6d 3h [Jh] ($107.15, 3 players)
No action


If the UTG had me covered, do you think a fold becomes more obvious? I would assume so.

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Originally Posted by cjs55

Yeah, raising to 2.50 would have been much better.

Here's how it turned out

Flop: 2c Td 6d ($10, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $6, SB folds, BB raises all in to $17.95, UTG calls $17.95, MP folds, Hero raises all in to $54.85, UTG calls all in for $21.65
Uncalled bet of $15.25 returned to Hero

Hero shows [Ac Ah]
BB shows [As Jc] (nice)
UTG shows [6h 6s]

Turn: 2c Td 6d [3h] ($107.15, 3 players)
No action

River: 2c Td 6d 3h [Jh] ($107.15, 3 players)
No action


If the UTG had me covered, do you think a fold becomes more obvious? I would assume so.

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It's not like the UTG player's really a shorty.

Even if you were 4738423708 BB's deep the problem would be the same : he's repping lots of strength with a passive line and you have a strong 1-pair hand.

I think it's almost impossible to put a non-retarded UTG on anything other than a set.. The limp just gives soo much away.