QQ needs help at 100NL

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03-13-2007, 02:20 PM
Da GOAT

QQ needs help at 100NL

very first hand ive played.

i just think everything about it is horrible.

EverestPoker Game #1246882813: Table Moroni-7 - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:04:30 - 2007/03/13
Seat 1: DaGOAT ($100.00)
Seat 2: RaiseEmHigh ($92.79)
Seat 3: ivabog ($144.06)
Seat 4: -uvnler- ($91.92)
Seat 5: bokkem ($71.36)
Seat 6: arslanem ($66.92)
Seat 8: thibso ($47.88)
Seat 9: kev79 ($100.50)
Seat 10: _Tijn_ ($113.16)
_Tijn_ posts the small blind of $0.50
DaGOAT posts the big blind of $1.00
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Qs Qc]
RaiseEmHigh folds
ivabog raises to $3.00
-uvnler- folds
bokkem folds
arslanem calls $3.00
thibso folds
kev79 calls $3.00
_Tijn_ folds
DaGOAT raises to $15.50
ivabog calls $12.50
arslanem calls $12.50
kev79 folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad Td 5c]
DaGOAT checks
ivabog checks
arslanem checks
*** TURN *** [Ad Td 5c] [4h]
DaGOAT bets $27.00
ivabog folds
arslanem calls $27.00
*** RIVER *** [Ad Td 5c 4h] [4s]
DaGOAT checks
arslanem bets $24.42 and is all-in
DaGOAT ????????????????
03-13-2007, 03:00 PM
zook

I re-raise a little more pre-flop since there are two callers and you're OOP, I make it $18 or $20. As played, you get two callers... meh. Tough call between betting the flop for ~$30 and folding to resistance, and just c/f'ing. I could go either way on the turn too... betting reps a slowplayed AA or a scared KK/QQ... so tough without a read. As played on the river, easy call, b/c you're getting over 5:1 and I think there's a 1 in 6 chance he has a busted flush draw here. More likely you're beat though.

Sorry I'm not much help here obv :) Just remember that the truly borderline EV decisions are the ones you should worry least about. I think Tommy Angelo wrote that.
03-13-2007, 03:19 PM
Da GOAT

thx zook i had a feeling this could go either way

i pretty much put them both on PPs or a poorly played AK (by cold caller anyway). i checked flop and was gonna fold to resistence i guess (from OPFR anyway).

felt betting turn would rep AAA or AKs type hand or KK QQ.
03-14-2007, 12:21 AM
Vi-Zer0Skill

Just a guess: villain has 10-10.
03-14-2007, 02:38 PM
Da GOAT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill

Just a guess: villain has 10-10.

but my thinking was would they ever check on flop with this hand after PFR has checked and flop has flush draw!!! granted someone on a draw is unlikely but my point is why wouldnt they bet.
03-14-2007, 04:35 PM
ilikeaces86

C/F the flop
03-14-2007, 04:59 PM
Renton

check turn, maybe call a bet, probably fold.
03-14-2007, 05:33 PM
Da GOAT

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

C/F the flop

yeah that was my plan for the flop but since it checked around i felt ahead then. i cant argue for c/f ing turn either with you.

Opp had 33 :wink: but it was a sticky situation i didnt like
03-14-2007, 05:47 PM
Renton

i think even given the potodds u are getting, calling the river is pretty bad.
03-15-2007, 12:30 PM
DennisGPunkt2

Uhm.. why not c-betting the flop? if he calls you there he got you beat. If not he will fold there and you take away the pot.
03-15-2007, 02:48 PM
Ash256

Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisGPunkt2

Uhm.. why not c-betting the flop? if he calls you there he got you beat. If not he will fold there and you take away the pot.

Because doing that loses money. If we win the pot right there we've gained nothing extra, if he calls we've lost our c-bet money. I prefer checking to the turn/river and making a bit of money when our opponent thinks his 88/middle pair might be good/takes a shot on the river.

Meh, maybe my reasoning is wrong, experienced players help me out here.