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analyze my stats please?
I have been playing for a few years, but just recently starting to take it a bit more seriously. I can't even remember how i found this site, but the articles are some of the most helpful I have found online.
I think I play tight/passive...too tight I think? I play mostly MTT's and SNG's. My bankroll is limiting my play atm to freerolls and play chips. I finish in the "money" a fair amount of the time (especially at the SNG's), but have yet to win a tourney.
Any criticism/comments on these stats is welcome:
games: 2683
games won: 8%
showdowns won: 59%
flops seen: 25%
win % if flop seen: 31%
ACTIONS
Fold: 56.33%
Bet: 2.16%
Check 23.8%
raise 2.2%
call 14.72%
re-raise: .81%
WHERE I FOLD
Pre-flop: 73.52%
Flop: 9.98%
Turn: 3.09%
River: 1.86%
No-fold: 11.54%
Thanks in advance for your help
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Assuming you're mixing up SNGs and MTTs in these stats? Because they do play differently (you spend a lot longer at full tables in MTTs, for example) and of course the results will differ hugely. 8% wins in SNGs is disappoiting, but if you've actually won 20% of your SNGs and the figure is diluted by MTTs then it's not much use!
The actions list - I'm not sure what it refers to, all possible moves? Even so, 4.4% bet/raise is too small under any circumstances - you need to be more aggressive, though cos I can't really read these figures I don't know by how much.
I think after 2600 tourneys you should really look to scrape together $50 and play some $2 SNGs and MTTs and see how they go. Honestly, if you apply stuff you've learnt from FTR, you'll quickly discover you're better than the average player at these stakes.
Perhaps you should post some hand histories - we're more likely to be able to make suggestions if we see how you (mis)play various hands.
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Here are 2 hands
from a tourney earlier today. The first one was the very first hand in a freeroll...the second was from a few minutes later. I would love feedback on how I could have gotten more out of the first one, and even though a fold turned out to be right in the second one, hindsight and all that...did I play it right?
FIRST HAND OF MTT free-roll…usually there is at least one all-in idiot
Stage #664798600 Tourney ID 1447237 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $20 - 2007-03-04 08:46:45 (ET)
Table: 136 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 1 - MARSHMAN_CA ($1500 in chips)
Seat 2 - DASH6541 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 3 - RAMJAM199 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 4 - SPECKLDGATOR ($1500 in chips)
Seat 5 - BOWLER24612 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 6 - JKSRUS ($1500 in chips)
Seat 7 - RMAK65 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 8 - PERPAH ($1500 in chips)
Seat 9 - FOLDQUICK123 ($1500 in chips)
RMAK65 - Posts small blind $10
PERPAH - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SPECKLDGATOR [4c 4s]
FOLDQUICK123 - Calls $20
MARSHMAN_CA - Folds
DASH6541 - Folds
RAMJAM199 - Folds
SPECKLDGATOR - Calls $20
BOWLER24612 - Calls $20
JKSRUS - Calls $20
RMAK65 - Calls $10
PERPAH - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah 4d 5s]
RMAK65 - Checks
FOLDQUICK123 - Checks
SPECKLDGATOR - Bets $120
BOWLER24612 - Calls $120
JKSRUS - Folds
RMAK65 - Folds
FOLDQUICK123 - Calls $120
*** TURN *** [Ah 4d 5s] [4h]
FOLDQUICK123 - Checks
SPECKLDGATOR - Checks
BOWLER24612 - Bets $280
FOLDQUICK123 - Calls $280
SPECKLDGATOR - Calls $280
*** RIVER *** [Ah 4d 5s 4h] [6h]
FOLDQUICK123 - Checks
SPECKLDGATOR - Bets $400
BOWLER24612 - Calls $400
FOLDQUICK123 - Folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SPECKLDGATOR - Shows [4c 4s] (Four of a kind, fours)
BOWLER24612 - Mucks
SPECKLDGATOR Collects $2120 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($2120)
Board [Ah 4d 5s 4h 6h]
Seat 1: MARSHMAN_CA Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DASH6541 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: RAMJAM199 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: SPECKLDGATOR won Total ($2120) HI:($2120) with Four of a kind, fours [4c 4s - P:4s,B:4h,B:4d,P:4c,B:Ah]
Seat 5: BOWLER24612 HI: [Mucked] [Ac 6c]
Seat 6: JKSRUS (dealer) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 7: RMAK65 (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 8: PERPAH (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: FOLDQUICK123 Folded on the RIVER
Couple of hands later….
Stage #664804111 Tourney ID 1447237 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $20 - 2007-03-04 08:53:00 (ET)
Table: 136 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - MARSHMAN_CA ($2340 in chips)
Seat 2 - DASH6541 ($1470 in chips)
Seat 3 - RAMJAM199 ($1660 in chips)
Seat 4 - SPECKLDGATOR ($2780 in chips)
Seat 5 - BOWLER24612 ($680 in chips)
Seat 6 - JKSRUS ($1380 in chips)
Seat 7 - RMAK65 ($1140 in chips)
Seat 8 - PERPAH ($1470 in chips)
Seat 9 - FOLDQUICK123 ($580 in chips)
RAMJAM199 - Posts small blind $10
SPECKLDGATOR - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SPECKLDGATOR [7h 7s]
BOWLER24612 - Calls $20
JKSRUS - Folds
RMAK65 - Folds
PERPAH - Folds
FOLDQUICK123 - Calls $20
MARSHMAN_CA - Calls $20
DASH6541 - Raises $200 to $200
RAMJAM199 - Raises $390 to $400
SPECKLDGATOR - Folds
BOWLER24612 - All-In(Raise) $660 to $680
FOLDQUICK123 - Folds
MARSHMAN_CA - Folds
DASH6541 - Calls $480
RAMJAM199 - Calls $280
*** FLOP *** [3c 4s 4h]
RAMJAM199 - Checks
DASH6541 - Checks
*** TURN *** [3c 4s 4h] [5c]
RAMJAM199 - Bets $790
DASH6541 - All-In $790
*** RIVER *** [3c 4s 4h 5c] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DASH6541 - Shows [9h Ah] (One pair, fours)
RAMJAM199 - Shows [Ad Qs] (One pair, fours)
BOWLER24612 - Shows [Ac 2c] (Flush, ace high)
RAMJAM199 Collects $1580 from side pot-1
BOWLER24612 Collects $2100 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($3680:$2100,$1580)
Board [3c 4s 4h 5c 6c]
Seat 1: MARSHMAN_CA Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DASH6541 (dealer) HI:lost with One pair, fours [9h Ah - B:4s,B:4h,P:Ah,P:9h,B:6c]
Seat 3: RAMJAM199 (small blind) won Total ($1580) HI:($1580) with One pair, fours(queen kicker) [Ad Qs - B:4s,B:4h,P:Ad,P:Qs,B:6c]
Seat 4: SPECKLDGATOR (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BOWLER24612 won Total ($2100) All-In HI:($2100) with Flush, ace high [Ac 2c - P:Ac,B:6c,B:5c,B:3c,P:2c]
Seat 6: JKSRUS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: RMAK65 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: PERPAH Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: FOLDQUICK123 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Stage #664804111 Tourney ID 1447237 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $20 - 2007-03-04 08:53:00 (ET)
Table: 136 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - MARSHMAN_CA ($2340 in chips)
Seat 2 - DASH6541 ($1470 in chips)
Seat 3 - RAMJAM199 ($1660 in chips)
Seat 4 - SPECKLDGATOR ($2780 in chips)
Seat 5 - BOWLER24612 ($680 in chips)
Seat 6 - JKSRUS ($1380 in chips)
Seat 7 - RMAK65 ($1140 in chips)
Seat 8 - PERPAH ($1470 in chips)
Seat 9 - FOLDQUICK123 ($580 in chips)
RAMJAM199 - Posts small blind $10
SPECKLDGATOR - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SPECKLDGATOR [7h 7s]
BOWLER24612 - Calls $20
JKSRUS - Folds
RMAK65 - Folds
PERPAH - Folds
FOLDQUICK123 - Calls $20
MARSHMAN_CA - Calls $20
DASH6541 - Raises $200 to $200
RAMJAM199 - Raises $390 to $400
SPECKLDGATOR - Folds
BOWLER24612 - All-In(Raise) $660 to $680
FOLDQUICK123 - Folds
MARSHMAN_CA - Folds
DASH6541 - Calls $480
RAMJAM199 - Calls $280
*** FLOP *** [3c 4s 4h]
RAMJAM199 - Checks
DASH6541 - Checks
*** TURN *** [3c 4s 4h] [5c]
RAMJAM199 - Bets $790
DASH6541 - All-In $790
*** RIVER *** [3c 4s 4h 5c] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DASH6541 - Shows [9h Ah] (One pair, fours)
RAMJAM199 - Shows [Ad Qs] (One pair, fours)
BOWLER24612 - Shows [Ac 2c] (Flush, ace high)
RAMJAM199 Collects $1580 from side pot-1
BOWLER24612 Collects $2100 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($3680:$2100,$1580)
Board [3c 4s 4h 5c 6c]
Seat 1: MARSHMAN_CA Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DASH6541 (dealer) HI:lost with One pair, fours [9h Ah - B:4s,B:4h,P:Ah,P:9h,B:6c]
Seat 3: RAMJAM199 (small blind) won Total ($1580) HI:($1580) with One pair, fours(queen kicker) [Ad Qs - B:4s,B:4h,P:Ad,P:Qs,B:6c]
Seat 4: SPECKLDGATOR (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BOWLER24612 won Total ($2100) All-In HI:($2100) with Flush, ace high [Ac 2c - P:Ac,B:6c,B:5c,B:3c,P:2c]
Seat 6: JKSRUS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: RMAK65 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: PERPAH Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: FOLDQUICK123 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Thanks in advance for any help.....
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As Biondino stated, in addition to reading posts here, posting hand histories will help you tremendously.
another thing you will want to do is use the tourney trimmer - http://www.flopturnriver.com/trimmer/tt.php as that will make it easier for us to comment on your hands.
My thoughts on your above hand history are as follows:
hand 1 - I would have bet the turn for two reasons. First, you will get called and/or raised with a large variety of hands (ESPECIALLY in a free roll) so there is no need to slow play here and secondly a raise shows less strength than a check/raise (which you should have at least done after your initial check).
On the river you can bet more. The pot is almost 1,200 chips. I make it 600 to go.
The next two hands are the same but you made a correct fold against all of that action.
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As Biondino stated, in addition to reading posts here, posting hand histories will help you tremendously.
another thing you will want to do is use the tourney trimmer - http://www.flopturnriver.com/trimmer/tt.php as that will make it easier for us to comment on your hands.
My thoughts on your above hand history are as follows:
hand 1 - I would have bet the turn for two reasons. First, you will get called and/or raised with a large variety of hands (ESPECIALLY in a free roll) so there is no need to slow play here and secondly a raise shows less strength than a check/raise (which you should have at least done after your initial check).
On the river you can bet more. The pot is almost 1,200 chips. I make it 600 to go.
The next two hands are the same but you made a correct fold against all of that action.
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Thanks for the link and the comments.
I've gotten so much constructive help out of this site in the week I have been reading and posting here...
