MSN/Instant messenger

So in a tourney last night a guy I was playing with lived in the same state as me and we were buddying up/STS (that's a new one I hope)...we had pretty similar playing styles and he seemed like a pretty good guy...he then says "Do you have MSN?" which I do even though I said I didn't (I have enough friends especially strange ones from the internet) but it got me thinking...

Are there people online playing at same tables that know each other that share hands etc? It seems like it would be a huge advantage for them if they knew even one other persons cards at their table. It kind of freaks me out the same way it does if two guys are chatting in a language I don't know at my table...

I've had guys MSN me, to ask me questions that i met on the tables. I've had two ask me to help them by sitting with them and doing just that, one even said outrite, "we could collude, when I get some more money to play."I laughed it off. Told them that I do fine on my own, the sites can figure it out. When guys are playing the same tables, more and more times, things stand out. You can't be a winner on my table without me knowing who you beat and who you've played hands with. Keep an eye.

oh yea, we also have chat all the time in the FTR chat room and discuss hands and games all the time. Just never reveal your hole cards (Euph??) if someone is at your table. But it's a great way to have someone watch and comment on your game.

It's funny what table chat upsets people and and what goes on especially in donkville...last night I jokingly asked when someone went all in and I had 3 or 4 guys behind me "Is anyone planning on calling this?" and although I was kidding (guess it wasn't obvious) someone got mad at me and said "You can't ask that!"

I apologized and told him I was trying to be funny but apparently it wasn't to him.

I do hate (and it happens all the time in freerolls and low money tournies) when someone goes all in and says "5, 3"...even if they are just messing around...I've learned to ignore it.

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Originally Posted by uscheese

I jokingly asked when someone went all in and I had 3 or 4 guys behind me "Is anyone planning on calling this?"

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Yea that would annoy me too. Whether youre joking or not people can still answer seriously and then you are accidently colluding.

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Originally Posted by Pelion

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Originally Posted by uscheese

I jokingly asked when someone went all in and I had 3 or 4 guys behind me "Is anyone planning on calling this?"

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Yea that would annoy me too. Whether youre joking or not people can still answer seriously and then you are accidently colluding.

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Yea I felt kinda bad after asking...lesson learned!

Here's a question that goes along the lines of colluding (kind of)...is it considered improper to try and make someone go on tilt by talking to them when they make a bad play? I was at a table a couple of weeks ago and one player (definite fish), made a big raise and was called. He ended up folding after the flop when he checked and was raised. He made the comment that if that same person were to call his big raise again he would crush him. I had just entered the room so don't know of there was any history there. Anyways, another person started giving him shit about his comment. As time went on, the person giving him shit was obviously trying to get him to go on tilt, which he did or else he was worse than a normal fish LOL. He was making fun of every bad move he made. I haven't seen much of this, and didn't enjoy it much, though I did make a lot of money at the table since those two were so concerned with one another that they sometimes forgot about other players having real hands. The example I gave was kind of extreme, but even some of the well known players, Mike Madasow (sp?) are known to talk trash from time to time to throw other players off their game. I have enough to do to just concentrate on my game and play the best I can without chatting at a table. Any thoughts on this?

^^ If there is a fish at the table you don't want to piss them off and then have them leave.

"Don't tap the tank"

A lot of people swear by saying "nice play" or something similar to a fish who chases and hits his gutshot - reinforce their belief that they made the right move. It is annoying when people start teaching the fish, though.

I tell PPL all the time to "don't tap the glass" I've had fish with large stacks that I've had good position on, leave from this and it's usually some moron fish himself, with no clue and a half stack berateing him for chasing or calling with an underpair, and catching a river. Nothing like losing some bad player to you right with 200BB because some table coach wants to yell at someone else because his wife beats him when she's home.

If you're in it to make money, then let them keep making bad calls. You'll get paid (or, hopefully, I will)

As for talking on MSN and playing, there have been times when I have been railed by a friend and he's asked what hand I had right when the table window has become active. The chat that was supposed to be in MSN then got put in the table chat and Enter just sends it out to the world. Very annoying when you tell people you're holding JTs...

Sometimes though, MSN can really spoil my concentration. Most of the time it gets turned off when I'm playing. Besides, none of my poker mates play at my [low] level!

Colluding can only work so much. Its hard to collude against the nuts isnt it.

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Originally Posted by jameseyb

As for talking on MSN and playing, there have been times when I have been railed by a friend and he's asked what hand I had right when the table window has become active. The chat that was supposed to be in MSN then got put in the table chat and Enter just sends it out to the world. Very annoying when you tell people you're holding JTs...

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Looool.