Optimal 1/2 Stack Strat?

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10-30-2006, 12:47 AM
martindcx1e

Optimal 1/2 Stack Strat?

- Call 3xBB PFR's with small pp's if villain covers?
- You're a bit too deep to be shoving after pfr's right?
- Say you've 3bet someone with AK PF. You hit flop and lead for like 20BB's into 25BB pot. You have like 18BB's behind. Should you just be pushing in that spot? If not, you can't consider folding a scary turn can you?

Just wondering about these things as every now and then I short-stack-attack, and once I double up to 1/2 stack I feel a bit odd and either fill all the way up or just head to a different table with 25BB's again. Any other pointers are appreciated.

Oh ya. Please no replies like, "Just play full man." I know that will def. be the 1st response now that I've said that :D
10-30-2006, 02:04 AM
Renton

ask ilikeaces or someone who was around back when party was 50bb
10-30-2006, 02:15 AM
MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...
10-30-2006, 02:20 AM
martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...

wasn't that for like 25bb's though? i have no problems there.
10-30-2006, 09:34 AM
jackvance

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Originally Posted by MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...

Got any links? Did he post the strat or is it in a book?
10-31-2006, 11:49 AM
Miffed22001

50bbs = 5bbs opening raise and busto on any hit flop pretty much.

You may have enough implied odds to call to make sets, but the set farmers certainly wont notice they dont have odds to set up on you fi you pot tp and fold to a push (given knowledge of opps stats)
10-31-2006, 12:39 PM
MiJ

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Originally Posted by jackvance

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Originally Posted by MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...

Got any links? Did he post the strat or is it in a book?

here's a link ...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1
10-31-2006, 01:36 PM
martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by MiJ

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Originally Posted by jackvance

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Originally Posted by MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...

Got any links? Did he post the strat or is it in a book?

here's a link ...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1

which is a strat for short stacking with 20-25bb's...
10-31-2006, 01:44 PM
MiJ

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Originally Posted by martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by MiJ

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Originally Posted by jackvance

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Originally Posted by MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...

Got any links? Did he post the strat or is it in a book?

here's a link ...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1

which is a strat for short stacking with 20-25bb's...

exactly...but he asked for a link..
10-31-2006, 01:49 PM
martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by MiJ

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Originally Posted by martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by MiJ

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Originally Posted by jackvance

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Originally Posted by MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...

Got any links? Did he post the strat or is it in a book?

here's a link ...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1

which is a strat for short stacking with 20-25bb's...

exactly...but he asked for a link..

ya i know - not directed at you
10-31-2006, 01:52 PM
MiJ

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Originally Posted by martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by MiJ

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Originally Posted by martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by MiJ

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Originally Posted by jackvance

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Originally Posted by MiJ

search on 2p2 ..tons of threads on this there ....especially since Ed Miller wrote a shorstack strat...

Got any links? Did he post the strat or is it in a book?

here's a link ...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1

which is a strat for short stacking with 20-25bb's...

exactly...but he asked for a link..

ya i know - not directed at you

oh.ok.
10-31-2006, 02:49 PM
Renton

i don't imagine 50bb plays very different from 100bb except that suited connectors/ small pairs suck a little more and big offsuit broadways suck a little less.
10-31-2006, 03:53 PM
martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by Renton

ask ilikeaces or someone who was around back when party was 50bb

lol aces said, "play tight."
11-01-2006, 04:08 AM
Miffed22001

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Originally Posted by martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by Renton

ask ilikeaces or someone who was around back when party was 50bb

lol aces said, "play tight."

Get dealt AA
??????
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

What else did you expect?
11-01-2006, 05:25 AM
Renton

if you are going to shortstack, just play 20bb. If you are doing it for money theres simply no reason to.

I was talking with XXXXX in IRC and he said that the dollars/hours for buying in for 200 at 1knl was lower than that of buying in full at 200nl, and obviously the swings are insane because you are having to push 55/45's all the time.
11-01-2006, 12:12 PM
martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by Renton

if you are going to shortstack, just play 20bb. If you are doing it for money theres simply no reason to.

I was talking with XXXXX in IRC and he said that the dollars/hours for buying in for 200 at 1knl was lower than that of buying in full at 200nl, and obviously the swings are insane because you are having to push 55/45's all the time.

ya the swings are ridiculous. i was just curious. 100bb's is def. the way to go fo sho.