Facing river oooooooooooooover bet (2 pr)

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10-09-2006, 03:29 AM
Blinky

Facing river oooooooooooooover bet (2 pr)

My table image should be quite tight. FWIW 8Ts is a hand that I feel very comfortable raising in this situation.

I don't have a really good read on opp; tight preflop and may be a multitabler. I've seen him around a few times before and hasn't made a negative impression so we can assume that he doesn't totally suck.

So. This brings us to a good question: is it a wise call with my 2pr here?

Can you put villian on a hand?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP1 ($98.85)
Hero ($105.80)
CO ($89.80)
Button ($107)
SB ($109.35)
BB ($96.90)
UTG ($101.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ts.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8s.gif.
1 fold, MP1 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3, MP1 calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/th.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/4s.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8h.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($26.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ks.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15.

River: ($56.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/jc.gif (2 players)
BB bets $70.9 (All-In), Hero ....
10-09-2006, 09:41 AM
LeFou

Ask yourself: if you made a straight on the end, and your opponent had bet pretty-big at you each time you checked, would you go all in right away?
10-09-2006, 10:37 AM
Phantaroth

He might have hit 2 pair on the river???

Don't think this is a bluff.
10-09-2006, 12:22 PM
DaNutsInYoEye

Betting big/pushing the river OOP into a player that has been leading strong the entire hand is very rarely a bluff.
10-09-2006, 01:09 PM
Fnord

I bet bigger on the flop + turn and pot-commit by the river. I would also re-raise to 5x pre-flop if I thought I had lots of fold equity on the flop. Raising to 4x here is a pot builder.

Fold as played.
10-09-2006, 01:16 PM
LeFou

So are we thinking JJ? or JT? I don't see KJ calling that flop unless they're both hearts... would a flopped set play this passively as more draws materialize?
10-09-2006, 03:27 PM
Blinky

Well... when he pushed the river, I tanked and thought of two things:

1. Set of 4s. This seemed unlikely b/c of the increasing drawishness of the board. Plus if he was thinking he'd be against overs, he'd probably try to build the pot a bit faster.

2. Busted FD. It seems kind of strange that he would chase it, though.

No other hand (except perhaps JJ, which I didn't consider) really seemed to fit. 44 seemed highly remote so I put opp on a busted FD.

It was a busted FD... but he traded a showdown of :ah: :qh: for my stack.

Nice read/line of thought LeFou:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefou

Ask yourself: if you made a straight on the end, and your opponent had bet pretty-big at you each time you checked, would you go all in right away?
10-09-2006, 04:54 PM
Fnord

You did this to yourself.