2nd nuts vs. FTR member's All-in

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $23.75
UTG+1: $23.70
MP1: $28.70
MP2: $19.50
CO: $25.50
Hero: $193.10
SB: $5.25
BB: $45.50

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with A:diamond: 7:club:
3 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: 8:club: 3:heart: 8:diamond: ($0.85, 3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 8:spade: ($0.85, 3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls, MP2 folds.

River: A:club: ($2.35, 2 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises all-in $44.5, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $43 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $5.35

Villian is 21.6/11.6/6.6 over 310 hands. We are talking on MSN. I recently had a gutshot straight flush draw and two overs which missed, and I bet 3/4 pot on river, took it down and showed. Another hand he bet/3-bet me with 2nd pair on the flop. I've been playing really loose against him too.

He still hasn't told me a straight answer on what he had. First he said he had 33 and was pissed when the turn came, then he said he had quads and it was a good fold, then he said he had the A and it was a split. I have a feeling he was bluffing, but the pot odds was horribly bad and the rake on a split would of been huge.

Effective stacksize was about 180BB, pot was 20BB

What do you do?

[Edit:] I forgot to mention AA, so i guess my hand is the 3rd nuts. At first I discounted it because of the play preflop and on the flop. But thinking about it now, I have seen him check his option in the Big Blind with AA.

This is an easy fold since you can't win.

I don't think I even raise the river. You're risking the pot to milk him for nothing in a small pot you figure to at least split.

correct, no reason to reopen the action unless you have a crazy history with opponent which leads you to believe there is additional value

I pulled an anchorman and immeadiately regretted my decision after the minraise.

The main reason I folded was because it was 43 dollars, freaking 172BB. If I could detach the monitary value from the chips, I might of found a call here, and I think I would of won.

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Originally Posted by ThelVlaster

I pulled an anchorman and immeadiately regretted my decision after the minraise.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: The bets looked so much smaller just reading the hh's :lol: :lol: :lol:

I fold too, tell him not to spend his $2.5 in one shop

These bears are MASSIVE!

Look Ron, I'm riding a furry tractor! :D

let the mini pot go and get him another time - I often try to talk myself into some of these calls, only to find out they were slowplaying the entire time - Its a nothing pot and it's not worth calling, in any case -

nice job, btw - huge stack for the game of that size -

BB was bluffing and only checks with AA preflop heads up.

Nice stack btw :P

he has an 8

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Originally Posted by Phantaroth

he has an 8

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and you have the 3rd nuts.

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Originally Posted by ThelVlaster

If I could detach the monitary value from the chips, I might of found a call here, and I think I would of won.

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nope

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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

and you have the 3rd nuts.

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Originally Posted by ThelVlaster

[Edit:] I forgot to mention AA, so i guess my hand is the 3rd nuts.

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Nothing calls a river raise that you beat, unless they put you on a total bluff... Raising is bad here. Just call.

At a home game recently I had 78s with a flop of 7A7. I lead into an agg, yet 1st level, friend and he called, and I knew he had the A. Turn was a 7 and I lead again, he called. I checked the river knowing he would bet the A and wouldn't fold it, raised allin and he said he had to call. Bonzai.