Some 200 NL hands

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09-13-2006, 12:11 PM
elipsesjeff

Some 200 NL hands

Hand 1: Villain is 44/10 and this is like my 3rd hand at the table and of the day.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($137.72)
MP ($229.71)
Hero ($197)
SB ($856.13)
BB ($426.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16.

Turn: ($49) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $49, BB calls $49.

River: ($147) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB calls $353.45 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $500.45

Hand 2: Villain is 40/20

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($79)
BB ($379.85)
UTG ($68)
MP ($73.06)
Hero ($193)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $10.

Flop: ($29) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $20, MP calls $20.

Turn: ($69) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP calls $41.06 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $110.06

Hand 3: Villain is 32/10/3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($529.25)
UTG ($189.50)
Button ($246.78)
Hero ($204)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($16) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $11, BB calls $11.

Turn: ($38) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $27, BB calls $27.

River: ($92) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $32, BB calls $32.

Final Pot: $156

Hand 4: Villain is 29/22

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($304.74)
Hero ($194)
SB ($230.55)
BB ($214.75)
UTG ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, BB calls $8, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($31) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $22, BB calls $22, UTG folds.

Turn: ($75) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $50, BB calls $182.75 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $307.75

All these seem pretty standard IMO, but just wondering if I can get a second opinion. Hand 1's push on the river felt kind of fishy, but not enough to pay for.
09-13-2006, 12:22 PM
Fnord

Yeah, I think I sometimes look him up on hand 1.
09-13-2006, 03:29 PM
benny999

Betting full pot more often instead of 2/3 or 3/4 is something I'm working on now. What do you think of potting the flops in #s 2 and 4?

I think that's all I'd change in those...but in #3 I would c/c turn, block river unless there's too much chance of a bluff raise. #1 seems good- I really think the fish hit some hand and you only beat a bluff really.
09-13-2006, 05:36 PM
elipsesjeff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Yeah, I think I sometimes look him up on hand 1.

Is that moreso because its a blind situation than a player situation?
09-13-2006, 05:39 PM
UG

Hand One: I might look him up here, but more often than not the huge overbet push is screaming "it's a bluff please call me," then you call and dude has a full boat.

Hand Three: Looking at this I'd say you're up against a baby flush or a set...maybe not that big, but I'd say you're at least up against something that beats you at showdown. This is basically why position rocks in poker. :)

You didn't play any of the hands bad, IMO.
09-13-2006, 06:03 PM
Irisheyes

1) I usually just fold here. It seems all the times I experiment and call, I lose.

2) Fine.

3) I'm not sure about this, the most obvious draw just hit. Maybe we should be checking behind here.
09-13-2006, 07:41 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Yeah, I think I sometimes look him up on hand 1.

Is that moreso because its a blind situation than a player situation?

Bluff-like betting pattern against a loose player who sucks at poker (although a post-flop read would help here a lot.)

Although I think there is a clear class of river problems where the answer is "sometimes you look him up, sometimes you fold" and any deterministic answer is too exploitable.
09-13-2006, 11:25 PM
mcatdog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Although I think there is a clear class of river problems where the answer is "sometimes you look him up, sometimes you fold" and any deterministic answer is too exploitable.

Bingo. I honestly might just flip a coin here.