Tp + oesd: PLayed too fast?

***** Hand History for Game 5089858649 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 03, 00:02:21 ET 2004
Table Monster #1293836 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: ELMO_MASK ( $186.03 )
Seat 5: h0ttestskate ( $96.92 )
Seat 6: pepaw46 ( $92.56 )
Seat 1: AATrain01 ( $116.20 )
AATrain01 posts small blind [$0.50].
ELMO_MASK posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ Jc Qh ]
h0ttestskate calls [$1].
pepaw46 folds.
AATrain01 calls [$0.50].

ELMO_MASK checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 9d, Jh ]

AATrain01 bets [$3].
ELMO_MASK folds.
h0ttestskate raises [$12].
AATrain01 raises [$33].
h0ttestskate is all-In [$83.92]
AATrain01 calls [$59.92].

Hello QK, nice to meet you.

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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

Hello QK, nice to meet you.

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that's worst case scenario (which is very likely), but a lot of other things whip our ass right now too


when I push draws like this I'm actually hoping the other guy will fold sometimes, at no point did your villian ever look like he wanted to fold.


hopefully you sucked out :)

I don't like this at all, 8 outs and I don't think you have much folding equity.

Against a decent loose range on pokerstove, QJ has 25.2% equity and that's in a best case scenario including QJ/JT. I think you are up against Q8s/KQ/set almost always here with more leniancy(sp?) to KQ. That gives you 16.4% equity. So once he 4bets the flop you should be getting out since you don't have the equity to be calling this.