100NL: Bottom set on the river

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08-31-2006, 01:36 PM
Halv

100NL: Bottom set on the river

No real read. River play standard?

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 ($8.00)
Hero ($98.50)
CO ($36.00)
Button ($76.50)
SB ($74.85)
BB ($100.00)
UTG ($47.00)
UTG+1 ($100.40)
UTG+2 ($89.25)
MP1 ($72.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
5 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7, BB folds.

Turn: ($24.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($24.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB raises to $30, Hero calls $15.

Final Pot: $84.50
08-31-2006, 01:51 PM
AHiltz

You're getting 4.63:1. Tis a call.
08-31-2006, 02:05 PM
Halv

Definitely a showdown. What I'm really asking is do anyone re-reraise after his c/r?
08-31-2006, 02:07 PM
bode

yeah. probly beat here, but >4:1 is a call
08-31-2006, 02:14 PM
takesix

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Definitely a showdown. What I'm really asking is do anyone re-reraise after his c/r?

Not in the habit of river pissing contests with no reads when I don't have the nuts (or near nuts). So that'd be a "no". Call is fine.
08-31-2006, 03:00 PM
Miffed22001

what exactly are we lutting opp on at the river?

im seriously considering betting the pot on the river. :?
08-31-2006, 03:43 PM
chewbaka

Why check behind on the turn??? Honestly, I just really want to know.
08-31-2006, 06:29 PM
Halv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

what exactly are we lutting opp on at the river?

im seriously considering betting the pot on the river. :?

Thats the problem, right? I can't really "lut" (:P) him on anything with the way the hand played out. Up until his river c/r I'm thinking some ace, so i bet an amount I feel he could call with say AJ. (Looking back, I should probably make it like 18-19$ if this is the case. A full pot sized bet might scare off A9 type hands though?)

I don't think he would check a higher set to me on both turn and river. I don't think he'd call preflop and on the flop with many hands that make a river flush. Perhaps 56s thinking I'm full of shit on the flop, hitting the gutshot on the turn and attempting a c/r? But how often do villains check those strong hands on both turn and river? I really can't say what he holds given this action. It looks a bit like air too, doesn't it?

I fear that I'm being results oriented here, but doesn't aces up look like a hand that might want to check-minraise to get value out of AK/AQ or pick off a bluff here? He's not really going to be scared of the backdoor flush, and I havent repped a strong hand until the river (standard cbet flop, shutdown on turn, try and steal the river?).

Villain flipped A7 and I smiled.

Quote:

Why check behind on the turn??? Honestly, I just really want to know.

I don't like to fire second barrels without reads, I'd rather check behind and hit that magic card or try to take it away on the river.
08-31-2006, 08:29 PM
Miffed22001

the river c/r is why i push or bet the pot then push because a flush or bluff would lead.