I think I learned to float

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08-30-2006, 03:49 AM
johnnyBuz

I think I learned to float

***** Hand History for Game 5061973399 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 30, 03:48:15 ET 2006
Table Magic Lamp (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: Lorenz1112 ( $9.15 )
Seat 4: peeshypow ( $21.04 )
Seat 5: SNOOTYFOX111 ( $8.84 )
Seat 6: GobblersNob ( $51.65 )
Seat 1: johnnyBuz ( $39.39 )
Seat 2: YoungestFloy ( $23.92 )
Seat 7: jimwan ( $20.90 )
Seat 9: ZyngotayB ( $30.85 )
Seat 8: Pokamon06 ( $24.75 )
Seat 10: C1234e ( $25.80 )
peeshypow posts small blind [$0.10].
SNOOTYFOX111 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to johnnyBuz [ Kh 6h ]
GobblersNob folds.
jimwan folds.
Pokamon06 folds.
ZyngotayB folds.
C1234e calls [$0.25].
johnnyBuz calls [$0.25].
YoungestFloy calls [$0.25].
Lorenz1112 folds.
peeshypow calls [$0.15].
SNOOTYFOX111 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, Kc, Th ]
peeshypow checks.
SNOOTYFOX111 checks.
C1234e checks.
johnnyBuz bets [$1].
YoungestFloy calls [$1].
peeshypow folds.
SNOOTYFOX111 folds.
C1234e folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
johnnyBuz checks.
YoungestFloy bets [$1.32].
johnnyBuz calls [$1.32].
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
johnnyBuz bets [$5].
YoungestFloy calls [$5].
johnnyBuz shows [ Kh, 6h ] two pairs, kings and sixes.
YoungestFloy shows [ Js, Kd ] a pair of kings.
johnnyBuz wins $15.14 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and sixes.
08-30-2006, 04:38 AM
Nova442

How can you float if there's no preflop raise? All you did here was 3 out a guy with TPGK.
08-30-2006, 04:45 AM
arkana

Floating is done in position with the idea of taking the pot without a showdown when shown weakness, you were out of position and you made a bad call on the turn and sucked out on the river.
08-30-2006, 10:48 AM
Numbr2intheWorld

Floating is essentially calling the flop with the intention of bluffing the turn.

I mainly do this against super aggressive players who will think a flop raise is just "playing back at them" when in fact you are. The turn raise is more believable, also it puts you on a stronger hand in your opponents mind.
08-30-2006, 10:55 AM
LimpinAintEZ

i don't think leading the flop is considered floating...raising the turn mighta worked better....nice catch - but don't do it too often :)
08-30-2006, 11:03 AM
andy-akb

Dont mean to join the bandwagon, but they are right. In no way at all is this a float.

You didnt ask for it so I wont critique the hand, but I think this was butchered pretty badly.
08-30-2006, 11:06 AM
Rondavu

LMAO. You float sucked a 3-outer.
08-30-2006, 12:06 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

I wont critique the hand,

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

I think this was butchered pretty badly.
08-30-2006, 12:13 PM
andy-akb

Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

I wont critique the hand,

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

I think this was butchered pretty badly.

Yea as in posting an analysis which I didnt do.

Im sure your contributions were appreciated as well.
08-30-2006, 12:35 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

I wont critique the hand,

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

I think this was butchered pretty badly.

Yea as in posting an analysis which I didnt do.

Im sure your contributions were appreciated as well.

lol it was meant in jest i assure you
08-30-2006, 12:39 PM
biondino

Could FTR stop snapping at each other plz?
08-30-2006, 12:43 PM
Ash256

I call that chasing myself.
08-30-2006, 12:48 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by biondino

Could FTR stop snapping at each other plz?

i think a lot of posts are originally meant as just a goofy joke and they get taken the wrong way easily. people should keep that in mind while on here.
08-30-2006, 12:54 PM
Halv

Fold preflop.

I really really really wanted to see a nice "guide" to floating here as I often tend to get kicked in the balls when I attempt it. :cry:
08-30-2006, 12:56 PM
johnnyBuz

ok i didnt learn to float.

i don't know what the correct term was, but the point is, i thought he was giving me odds to call. that is all. i knew i was behind until the river. it's not a move i use regularly. (chasing deceptive 2pairs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by arkana

Floating is done in position with the idea of taking the pot without a showdown when shown weakness, you were out of position and you made a bad call on the turn and sucked out on the river.
08-30-2006, 12:59 PM
martindcx1e

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tBeerFloat.jpg
08-30-2006, 01:00 PM
biondino

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Fold preflop.

I really really really wanted to see a nice "guide" to floating here as I often tend to get kicked in the balls when I attempt it. :cry:

Me too. Unless it's done well it's a real fishy spew as far as I can tell. Can any experts give a guide on how to spot the right occasions to float, and the right opponents to float against? (probably in a different thread)
08-30-2006, 01:02 PM
martindcx1e

i 2nd a float guide
08-30-2006, 01:36 PM
andy-akb

Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by biondino

Could FTR stop snapping at each other plz?

i think a lot of posts are originally meant as just a goofy joke and they get taken the wrong way easily. people should keep that in mind while on here.

Yea, I took it the wrong way, no hard feelings though man, dont worry about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Fold preflop.

I really really really wanted to see a nice "guide" to floating here as I often tend to get kicked in the balls when I attempt it. :cry:

This is something that I have mixed feelings on. Im not sure where you play, but I know the majority of FTRers play at 100nl and below [myself included for the time being, about to take my first shot at 200nl soon] and at these stakes floating is often just going to get people into more trouble. As long as the article stressed how situational it is and the importance of reads and stats I think it wouldnt be bad, you just need to be careful when working it into your game.

I personally would like a guide that went more into detail on what situations are good for firing the second barrel.
08-30-2006, 02:00 PM
Rondavu

I think you're all a bunch of fairies. Get over it and man up. What are you a pack of metrosexuals? Ok I'm just kidding, go get me a cinnamon latte.

Biondino, stop talking about fight club

Oh ya, and float in position on safe boards against chronic C-bettors.
08-30-2006, 02:12 PM
flyingPenguin

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

I personally would like a guide that went more into detail on what situations are good for firing the second barrel.

Same here. I thought you fired the second barrel against a fool who calls the flop bet with bottom pair, but those fools seem to call the second barrel too often as well.

Too often when I fire a second barrel I end up being the fool.
08-30-2006, 03:03 PM
LimpinAintEZ

don't float on people who won't give up QQ or JJ no matter what hits on the board...I am trying to learn to float, with a bit of success, but the player has to be at least decent enough to recognize a slow play (which is what floating should look like, right?)
08-30-2006, 03:53 PM
arkana

My thoughts on floating: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...064&highlight=

Knowing when to fire the second barrel requires a thread on its own since there is quite a lot to discuss.