Two pair. Paired board. Should I get out?

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08-17-2006, 10:23 PM
IslandAK

Two pair. Paired board. Should I get out?

Do I fold? Thanks in advance. No pacific converter.

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 57873991 *****
$0.12/$0.25 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 08 17 15:53:40 2006
Table Romeo Y Julieta Plateados de Romeo (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 10: Styris79 ( $53.08 )
Seat 1: Dboh3 ( $16.39 )
Seat 3: Ceagle21 ( $22.8 )
Seat 4: mfunk ( $5.85 )
Seat 5: gensisya ( $27.25 )
Seat 6: davidc2 ( $26.93 )
Seat 8: view56 ( $33.34 )
Seat 9: Island3r ( $26 )
gensisya posts small blind [$0.12].
davidc2 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Island3r [ Qc Kd ]
view56 raises [$0.5].
Island3r calls [$0.5].
Styris79 folds.
Dboh3 calls [$0.5].
Ceagle21 folds.
mfunk folds.
gensisya folds.
davidc2 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Qs, Kh ]
view56 bets [$0.25].
Island3r calls [$0.25].
Dboh3 calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
view56 bets [$0.25].
Island3r raises [$2].
Dboh3 raises [$5].
view56 folds.
Island3r calls [$3].
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
Island3r checks.
Dboh3 bets [$8].
08-17-2006, 11:07 PM
bantam222

raise the flop
08-18-2006, 12:13 AM
TerryToma

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Originally Posted by bantam222

raise the flop
08-18-2006, 12:34 AM
KingLizard

I fold ... figure the villain limped in with X2s ... prolly A 2.
08-18-2006, 01:06 AM
Admerylous

On a $25 Max table, I call.
I think more than 50% of the time in this scenario you will have the superior hand.
The only hand I'm truly worried about here is A2. You can be almost certain he didn't have KK or QQ if he is a remotely solid player. He wouldn't have been so strong with just simply pocket 4s earlier on in the hand, either.
Granted, it looks like the 8 dollar river bet is an almost extraction bet but it also sort of looks like a this is how much I think I need to risk to get my opp. out of the hand bet.

How did it play out?
08-18-2006, 08:07 PM
IslandAK

Thanks for the replies guys.

bantam222 wrote:
raise the flop

Yeah. I just running so cold I wanted to get a little more value than what was in the pot at the time. Stupid...

I called. The villan turns over 24. HAH! I was drawing pretty thin on the turn, then he capped it off with the boat. nh.

He did reraise the 2 on the turn, then a standard call me bet (for $8) on the river. I think I should have let it go.
08-19-2006, 02:04 PM
WhooFleuryScores

Preflop: Is ok.

Flop: RAISE!!!!!Make it like $2-$3 to go.

Turn: Here is the key. His raise means business......I would let it go here.
08-19-2006, 05:26 PM
flyingPenguin

With no reads I'm probably folding this preflop.

Raise the flop.

Block bet the river about half pot. Without reads it could easily be a draw or top pair. A draw will fold, top pair will probably call, and a raise gives you an easy fold.

As played I'm probably calling but I think you're behind A2 or some other bollocksy 2 more than 50% of the time. I'd say a call is a long term winner here though.
08-19-2006, 11:41 PM
martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I think you're behind...more than 50% of the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I'd say a call is a long term winner here.

:?:
08-20-2006, 05:06 AM
flyingPenguin

Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I think you're behind...more than 50% of the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I'd say a call is a long term winner here.

:?:

Calling $8 into a ~$28 pot (including the $8 call). You only need to win 8/28 = 2 out of every 7 times to break even.
08-20-2006, 11:57 AM
freechus9

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Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I think you're behind...more than 50% of the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I'd say a call is a long term winner here.

:?:

Calling $8 into a ~$28 pot (including the $8 call). You only need to win 8/28 = 2 out of every 7 times to break even.

Yea, basic EV calculation.
08-20-2006, 04:32 PM
martindcx1e

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Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I think you're behind...more than 50% of the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

I'd say a call is a long term winner here.

:?:

Calling $8 into a ~$28 pot (including the $8 call). You only need to win 8/28 = 2 out of every 7 times to break even.

sorry. i wasn't paying attention to the pot odds for some reason.
08-20-2006, 05:34 PM
2_Thumbs_Up

Re: Two pair. Paired board. Should I get out?

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Originally Posted by IslandAK

Island3r raises [$2].
Dboh3 raises [$5].

Just a little more than a min-raise means he didn't just click the raise button. I think this is an indication of a strong hand. He put some thought into this raise and he seems to want a call.