100NL Defending blind with SC, 160 BBs deep

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($27.55)
MP2 ($15.85)
CO ($48.90)
Button ($162.40)
SB ($82.90)
Hero ($169.60)
UTG ($66)
UTG+1 ($103.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
5 folds, Button raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($6.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3, Hero raises to $11, Button raises to $29, Hero ???

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No read on the Button at the time, my PAHUD had not kicked in yet.

How do you like PF, and the flop move?

What's your move after the 3-bet?

Call is fine. It was only a standard 3x BB raise. CR is goot. I give no credit on this 3 bet. Most time it's him thinking you are playing back at him. I shove and get money in while ahead.

He's got 1 pair here most of the time I think. I agree with the push.

set?

You just c/red and he 3bet.

Push or Fold. I'd probably push.

i'd fold, you have shown so much strength and he still raised again. i think you are behind his range here a lot.

i dont think i want to push here

fold>call>push imo. I dont know whether i like calling either

push is standard

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Originally Posted by Renton

push is standard

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dont agree.

he just 3 bet us showing he wants to play big.
im think oesd and flush draw perhaps a pair too.
he could 3 bet a set here.
100bbs deep, yeah maybe push, 160? no.

I maintain.... fold pre-flop. Push flop.

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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

I maintain.... fold pre-flop. Push flop.

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if your folding scs preflop against someone who is 160bbs deep then you arent taking the right oppertunites vs the deepstack imo.

With so much behind, i think we can find/argue implied odds despite being oop.
Its also unlikel our opp knows how to play deep stacked, but again he just three bet us with bottom two pair on a mega-yukky board, so i think pushing is just horrible.
What exactly is he going to 3bet here? tp?!

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Originally Posted by Renton

push is standard

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what hands does villain take this line with after so much strenght from hero?

99
77
66
97
96
8T
85

all owns us.

he might do this with an overpair of course, and maybe some flush/straightdraw (though i havent seen many threebet witha draw after a checkraise). i dont see much more do this on this dangerous board. with so much behind i'm not comfortable pushing. maybe a call and re-evaluate?

the depth makes pushing less than standard now that I think about it.

Its definitely +EV though. Overpairs make up a massive percentage of villains range. The sad thing is, we don't have overpairs drawing dead. A call and all in on a blank turn may be better, but on this board, I don't know.

I also say fold, why do you want to get so much involved on such a borderline play?

ive managed this twice today so obviously im a retard (doublepost)

stack sizes here dictate everything here. I dont think calling leading a blankish turn is horrible but then folding >calling and raising/pushing is just bad.

I'd also note that he first bet under half the pot, usually this is either air/draw or something huge looking to trap. When he 3-bets a c/r I think we have to give him credit for the latter.

I agree with fold>call>raise.