This hand bothers me

Opponent is a tight regular, 19/7 over 1800 hands. I hate making this fold in a reraised pot with draws and all out there, I just think this is a set more often than not and 88-QQ is quite unlikely to be played this way with somewhat deep stacks.
I also realise that folding in spots like this is exploitable by regulars who will eventually get a good idea what your calling requirements are.

Thoughts?

Players(max 6):
ricba640 (EUR 426.41 in seat 1)
kasper04 (EUR 93.51 in seat 2)
Matte_SWE1 (EUR 99.90 in seat 3)
Klaastad (EUR 274.53 in seat 4)
babirai (EUR 504.59 in seat 5)
Cocco_Bill (EUR 525.25 in seat 6)

Dealer: Matte_SWE1
Small Blind: babirai (2.00)
Big Blind: Cocco_Bill (4.00)

Cocco_Bill was dealt: :Ks: - :Kh:

ricba640 Call (4.00)
kasper04 Fold
Matte_SWE1 Raise (14.00)
babirai Call (12.00)
Cocco_Bill Raise (39.00)
ricba640 Fold
Matte_SWE1 Fold
babirai Call (29.00)

Flop :3d: - :7h: - :4h:

babirai Check
Cocco_Bill Bet (85.00)
babirai All-In (461.59)
Cocco_Bill Fold
babirai Payback (376.59)

babirai didn't show hand

babirai wins: EUR 272.00
Rake: EUR 2.00

Game ended 2006-08-03 01:06:23 GMT+01:00

i dont see him having anything but a set here

for the love of god raise more preflop.

Folding here absolutely makes you exploitable, but it's a pretty obvious set, so I think it's a good fold. When I say it makes you exploitable, I mean you aren't really ever going to have anything better then KK/AA here which have almost the same power at this point, but that doesn't mean that this guy is -going- to exploit you. He probably doesn't expect to move anyone off KK here...

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Originally Posted by Lukie

for the love of god raise more preflop.

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Reraise to 60 total preflop.

As played I would call, although he probably does have a set it looks like. Actually, a fold does look good here. He certainly does look like he has a set here. I usually don't fold here though without a good read, which it looks like you had. Nh.

I won't say obvious set but I believe thats what it most likely is. He's probably playing it weird because he knows he needs to mix things up when playing against you. So fold flop.

I agree with the raise more pf camp. Make it more then $50 because of his implied odds.

One gradual change to my game has been that I now re-raise more often pre flop because I find it profitable. On average my opponents won't have implied odds to call these re-raises if they are doing so for set value.

I will however now try to bump up my raises especially when there is a raise and a call in front of me.

Thanks for the feedback everyone

Players(max 6):
Cocco_Bill (EUR 688.52 in seat 1)
carlos_p (EUR 159.00 in seat 2)
Chrippa (EUR 94.30 in seat 3)
bergarn (EUR 189.56 in seat 4)
peterplayr (EUR 288.00 in seat 5)
Armani (EUR 554.04 in seat 6)

Dealer: Armani
Small Blind: Cocco_Bill (2.00)
Big Blind: carlos_p (4.00)

Cocco_Bill was dealt: :Ah: - :Ks:

Chrippa Fold
bergarn Raise (13.00)
peterplayr Fold
Armani Call (13.00)
Cocco_Bill Raise (39.00)
carlos_p Fold
bergarn Fold
Armani Call (28.00)

Flop :6d: - :Qc: - :2c:

Cocco_Bill Bet (70.00)
Armani Fold
Cocco_Bill Payback (70.00)

Cocco_Bill didn't show hand

Cocco_Bill wins: EUR 96.00
Rake: EUR 3.00

Game ended 2006-07-30 20:49:16 GMT+01:00

Players(max 6):
bovens (EUR 450.83 in seat 1)
Cocco_Bill (EUR 383.00 in seat 2)
Ronan (EUR 194.00 in seat 3)
Suttan (EUR 556.12 in seat 4)
ANab (EUR 221.20 in seat 5)
Klaastad (EUR 408.50 in seat 6)

Dealer: bovens
Small Blind: Cocco_Bill (2.00)
Big Blind: Ronan (4.00)

Cocco_Bill was dealt: :Kc: - :Ah:

Suttan Call (4.00)
ANab Raise (14.00)
Klaastad Fold
bovens Fold
Cocco_Bill Raise (40.00)
Ronan Fold
Suttan Fold
ANab Call (28.00)

Flop :Tc: - :4s: - :6h:

Cocco_Bill Bet (65.00)
ANab Fold
Cocco_Bill Payback (65.00)

Cocco_Bill didn't show hand

Cocco_Bill wins: EUR 89.00
Rake: EUR 3.00

Game ended 2006-08-02 16:17:52 GMT+01:00

fun huh?

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Originally Posted by bair

fun huh?

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:?: :?:

Ya thats the way I do that.

What's your range now - you only showed AK. I hope your reraise range is more than JJ+/AK.

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Originally Posted by r8ed

What's your range now - you only showed AK. I hope your reraise range is more than JJ+/AK.

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From the blinds my reraise range is indeed quite tight, I just wanted to show that people playing for set value don't often have such great implied odds.