100NL QQ led into on turn

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08-01-2006, 07:15 PM
nogenius

100NL QQ led into on turn

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($101.70)
Hero ($100)
CO ($96.50)
Button ($89.80)
SB ($80.50)
BB ($119.15)
UTG ($133.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $30, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($71.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $20, Hero ???

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UTG has not shown down a hand yet, he's 40/5 over 15 hands.

What's your move here?
08-01-2006, 07:40 PM
Dislexsik

Board is to dangerous.
U raised him on the flop, he called.Fine.
He bets into u on the turn, fold.Unless u got a good read on him.
08-01-2006, 07:41 PM
martindcx1e

get out fast!!
08-01-2006, 08:02 PM
AHiltz

He's trying to buy it.
08-01-2006, 08:06 PM
Fnord

Aren't you glad you raised that flop for information!
08-01-2006, 11:26 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Aren't you glad you raised that flop for information!

villain sure is :D
08-01-2006, 11:28 PM
Fnord

I seriously haven't a clue where our hero is at. All I figure is that his opponent has to have a piece at this point.
08-01-2006, 11:59 PM
Halv

I think opp has more than a single pair here a very large percentage of times. Whether that turn bet is trying to induce a raise or is looking for a cheap showdown doesn't really matter to me, I think we're probably not going to have the best of it often enough to put in more chips here.
08-02-2006, 01:23 AM
DaNutsInYoEye

I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.
08-02-2006, 01:28 AM
KoRnholio

He's giving us 4.5:1 odds with his turn bet in this large pot. This looks like a classic suck bet to induce our JJ+ to call here and then again on the river.

Fnord, if we just call on the flop, what's our game plan for the rest of the hand? Say he leads for $15 (1/2 pot) on the turn (same card), do we just call again and seek a cheap showdown?
08-02-2006, 01:33 AM
Halv

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.

I'll say 87s, 88 or 77, although a flushdraw, TT/99 or something silly like A8 is not impossible. 40/5 certainly includes lots of top pair type hands, but based on only 15 hands I think that's a bit early to tell.
08-02-2006, 01:34 AM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.

i think pushing is the worst option. for a range....88, 44, 77, 56, 78, 99-JJ, A8...how's that sound?
08-02-2006, 01:46 AM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.

Why are we playing for stacks here?
08-02-2006, 04:39 AM
DaNutsInYoEye

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.

Why are we playing for stacks here?

It's either play for stacks or fold. Just calling is a mistake leaving those as the only two decent options IMO. Folding is probably more prudent, but without a read I'll also push here sometimes.