25 NL 6max. 77. PLaying without a set.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($28.55)
UTG ($29.50)
MP ($13)
Button ($25.40)
SB ($31.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
3 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.6, SB calls $2.10.

Turn: ($7.20) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($7.20) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

Final Pot: $11.20

it doesnt seem like he would lead a 5 on teh flop
i guess he could check with a 9 on the turn.

is it a good call?

I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call. It's hard not to call though because you just want to see wtf he had, but I think his bet is too small to be a bluff, I'd be more likely to call if he lead out for the pot or something. A better line is to call the flop then raise the turn for a free showdown, or to raise flop bet turn if you think he is on a draw.

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Originally Posted by aislephive

I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call.

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you need to stop saying stuff like this, its not 'clearly -ev'

you played it fine vq, although sometimes i fire again on turn. they would have to be very vey passive for me to fold this on river.

It's marginal, but I call, if not for anything, then just for future reads/info. But I think a 5 is certainly likely, he tried to take the flop, but your call slowed him down. The check on the turn gave him confidence in his 5 again.

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Originally Posted by gabe

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Originally Posted by aislephive

I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call.

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you need to stop saying stuff like this, its not 'clearly -ev'

you played it fine vq, although sometimes i fire again on turn. they would have to be very vey passive for me to fold this on river.

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I've got thousands of hands at 25-50nl, and this line is KJ like 98% of the time. It might not be as clear cut of a fold as I said, but I can't imagine us being good here very often at all, I think maybe it's a 10-1 shot.

I agree with aislephive, this is going to be a K the majority of the time.

Reads could change a lot though, do you have any?

thats a 5 or a busted flush draw as often as its a K at 25nl. if the second card on the flop was an 8, then you could make a pretty good case for folding the river.

i would be more worried about the str8 having hit than him having a K. if he has the K9, then it makes more sense (trying to trap/CR with 2 pr), but not a KJ. either way, i call.

I think Aislephive is right - it's a weak king, and only a massive raise on the river is going to make him consider folding.

It *could* be 66-99 but I don't think so. I don't think it's a 5 as a 5 folds to the flop raise. I also don't think a missed flush bets like this at $25. K9-KJ is practically inevitable.

I think villain has a weak K. He called the flop raise then slowed down on turn. Heros check gave him confidence to bet river.

vcq, wut was the result?

it wasnt KJo

or a 66-99

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Originally Posted by vqc

it wasnt KJo

or a 66-99

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43/54?

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Originally Posted by johnny_fish

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Originally Posted by vqc

it wasnt KJo

or a 66-99

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43/54?

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nope.
the hand in question was kinda oddly played.
threw me for a loop.

AA?

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Originally Posted by mcatdog

AA?

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this oculd go on forever

he had AK

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I'd be more likely to call if he lead out for the pot or something.

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sklanksy say no!