Good Pot Sizes... NL ring

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07-28-2006, 09:36 AM
LeFou

Good Pot Sizes... NL ring

I'm accustomed to looking at the Plrs/Flop percentage to pick tables. Here's what I do (Stars $25 NL):
>50% is good
42-50% is good, if no one is on the waiting list already. If so, the table has likely been targeted by another Tagg. (If a >50% has more than 2 people on the waiting list, it's also no good)

I see a lot of players here saying they just go for the table with the biggest pots. $3-4 seems normal at these stars table. I see a $6 at 45%, which sounds great. Also a $8 at 49%. Also great.

Your thoughts? Specific numbers, if you please.
07-28-2006, 09:57 AM
a500lbgorilla

eh, i never really payed much attention to pot sizes. Frequently if you do manage to sit at the table with a big pot size, it's becuase you're sitting in the seat recently vacated by the pot-boosting maniac. Also, rooms with big pot sizes often attract rocks and the rooms complexion can change within 30 hands.
07-28-2006, 09:57 AM
Thee One

Playing Party 6-Max, I just sort by the biggest pots and jump onto the first table that has an opening. From there its isolate the weak links, exploit, get out and move to the next.
07-28-2006, 10:10 AM
a500lbgorilla

in full ring, i just try to find a table with one big enough sucker playing enough pots to allow me to play with him frequently.
07-28-2006, 10:29 AM
LeFou

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

in full ring, i just try to find a table with one big enough sucker playing enough pots to allow me to play with him frequently.

That's another bit of advice I hear a lot and don't know how to implement. The way I see it, you've got to see a guy show down at least 4 or 5 hands before you can be sure he sucks. How many orbits do you have to observe to see this? Or does anyone who plays a lot of pots probably suck? Or do you just use onscreen stats from PT?
07-28-2006, 10:37 AM
jyms

PT can tell me after 20 hands that a guy is a rock or a fish. No one that is 18/0/ 1 after 20 hands is a TAGG. And no 2/2/3.5 after 10 hands is a calling station. It'll help early, then after 100 hands I stay or move depending on the table and who is left.
07-28-2006, 10:52 AM
flomo

Re: Good Pot Sizes... NL ring

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeFou

I'm accustomed to looking at the Plrs/Flop percentage to pick tables. Here's what I do (Stars $25 NL):
>50% is good
42-50% is good, if no one is on the waiting list already. If so, the table has likely been targeted by another Tagg. (If a >50% has more than 2 people on the waiting list, it's also no good)

I see a lot of players here saying they just go for the table with the biggest pots. $3-4 seems normal at these stars table. I see a $6 at 45%, which sounds great. Also a $8 at 49%. Also great.

Your thoughts? Specific numbers, if you please.

are these stats for 6max?
07-28-2006, 11:17 AM
a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeFou

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

in full ring, i just try to find a table with one big enough sucker playing enough pots to allow me to play with him frequently.

That's another bit of advice I hear a lot and don't know how to implement. The way I see it, you've got to see a guy show down at least 4 or 5 hands before you can be sure he sucks. How many orbits do you have to observe to see this? Or does anyone who plays a lot of pots probably suck? Or do you just use onscreen stats from PT?

nope, i just need to see him make one river call that isn't smart or two or three crazy raises and i know ive got a live one.
07-28-2006, 11:30 AM
LeFou

Re: Good Pot Sizes... NL ring

Quote:

Originally Posted by flomo

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeFou

I'm accustomed to looking at the Plrs/Flop percentage to pick tables. Here's what I do (Stars $25 NL):
>50% is good
42-50% is good, if no one is on the waiting list already. If so, the table has likely been targeted by another Tagg. (If a >50% has more than 2 people on the waiting list, it's also no good)

I see a lot of players here saying they just go for the table with the biggest pots. $3-4 seems normal at these stars table. I see a $6 at 45%, which sounds great. Also a $8 at 49%. Also great.

Your thoughts? Specific numbers, if you please.

are these stats for 6max?

Nope; that was the 9handed ring. (Much juicier than normal for stars, though)
07-31-2006, 02:13 PM
flomo

time to move to stars
07-31-2006, 06:05 PM
Lukie

6max tables with 5 players or less is generally what I'm looking for.
07-31-2006, 10:53 PM
DaNutsInYoEye

Re: Good Pot Sizes... NL ring

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeFou

I'm accustomed to looking at the Plrs/Flop percentage to pick tables. Here's what I do (Stars $25 NL):
>50% is good
42-50% is good, if no one is on the waiting list already. If so, the table has likely been targeted by another Tagg. (If a >50% has more than 2 people on the waiting list, it's also no good)

I see a lot of players here saying they just go for the table with the biggest pots. $3-4 seems normal at these stars table. I see a $6 at 45%, which sounds great. Also a $8 at 49%. Also great.

Your thoughts? Specific numbers, if you please.

I think % seeing flop is a better indicator of the overall fishiness of a table than average pot size, although they both have the same basic problem. If I'm not mistaken, these numbers (at least on Stars) are based upon the past 10 hands played. Over such a small sample it's easy to see how one or two freak hands can give the wrong impression about the play characteristics of a table.
07-31-2006, 11:04 PM
mcatdog

Also, if there's an empty seat at a table with a huge average pot size, it very likely means that a fish just got busted and left the table.