AQ big pot against LAG

He plays a lots of hands. Checkraises my c-bets, broke me once for 80BB with his J2s that flopped bottom two and I paid it off with KK overpair.

How to play the flop?
How to play the turn if it's Queen, not Ace?
Bet the river? How much? I think I missed a lot of value on that river.

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Hand #338814712 at table: Table TH Mini
Started: Thu Jun 22 05:11:21 2006

_Vrax_ is at seat 1 with 42.94
RangerE is at seat 2 with 24.65
rooter is at seat 3 with 10.70
tralfraz is at seat 4 with 24.62
u lose 2 is at seat 5 with 9.86
donlinze is at seat 6 with 55.16
*Legolas* is at seat 7 with 24.75
slymax is at seat 8 with 50.85
- ty - is at seat 9 with 24.77
korzen666 is at seat 10 with 19.90

rooter posts the large blind 0.25
RangerE posts the small blind 0.12

RangerE: --, --
rooter: --, --
tralfraz: --, --
u lose 2: --, --
donlinze: --, --
*Legolas*: --, --
- ty -: --, --
korzen666: --, --
_Vrax_: :Qh:, :As:

Pre-flop:

tralfraz: Call 0.25
u lose 2: Fold
donlinze: Call 0.25
*Legolas*: Fold
- ty -: Fold
korzen666: Fold
_Vrax_: Raise 1.25
RangerE: Fold
rooter: Fold
tralfraz: Fold
donlinze: Call 1.25

Flop (Board: :9c:, :4d:, :Qc:):

donlinze: Check
_Vrax_: Bet 2.00
donlinze: Raise 6.00
_Vrax_: Call 6.00

Turn (Board: :9c:, :4d:, :Qc:, :Ad:):

donlinze: Bet 4.00
_Vrax_: Raise 10.00
donlinze: Call 10.00

River (Board: :9c:, :4d:, :Qc:, :Ad:, :6s:):

donlinze: Check
_Vrax_: Check (I think I should have bet here but was afrais he will shut me off the hand with huge checkraise that will be tough to call)

Showdown:

donlinze shows: Qd, 9s (two pair, Queens and Nines)
_Vrax_ shows: Qh, As (two pair, Aces and Queens)

Mainpot:
_Vrax_ wins the pot of 33.37 with two pair, Aces and Queens(1.75 rake were taken for this hand)

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The 6 couldn't possibly have helped him, and if he could beat top 2 pair on the turn, he would have 3bet you there. Bet that river and get some of that 80BB back :)

Yea his turn call, especially followed by river check, gives away he isn't beating top 2 pair...especially knowing he plays lots of hands. If he wasn't scared of the ace he would've 3 bet the turn or at least bet the river like 90%+ of the time. I would bet around 1/3-1/2 pot on the river, or whatever I think the most he calls with a high % of the time is.

I like your flop line. But if the turn is a Q and he stays really aggressive like bet/3bets or check/raises really big, and I had played him enough before so I had a solid read on his range for doing something like that, I could fold because you have a deep stack, but most times I would still get all in. Maybe that's a leak, not totally sure, but Qx will be his range with just knowing how he played the one hand, and you're ahead of that.

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Originally Posted by Vrax

I think I missed a lot of value on that river.

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I agree. I bet around $20 on the river. And I think I call a check-raise, given your read and the action.

I'm raising the turn harder and definitely betting that river... I'm trying to become less of a wuss as Fnord requested by trying to lose my value for money!

Out of curiousity, how may 99 or 44 play this hand?
[For the villain]

Quote:

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Originally Posted by andy-akb

Out of curiousity, how may 99 or 44 play this hand?
[For the villain]

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Bet the turn for more than 1/4 pot and probably re-raise. And lead the river. That's assuming he's decent. After the turn raise by hero, villain has to think the A helped him and he can get stacks in, but he never tries to. That tells me he doesn't have a set.

$15-$20 on the river should get a call. He raises the river, I call. I can't imagine he has a set.

If the turn is a Q, I push his turn bet.

raise the turn harder. You have a great hand and he could be drawing to the flush.

Try to get all in on the river.

Yeah, I want to play for stacks here.