Call here?

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06-21-2006, 04:41 AM
Anosmic

Call here?

Game # 115659777: Texas Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) 06/21/2006 01:10:42
Table "Delancy St" (Real Money) Seat 4 is the button

Seat 1: eightoften ($43.05)
Seat 2: Anosmic ($112.95)
Seat 3: restarted ($97.30)
Seat 4: LQQKIN4WIN ($175.75) [button]
Seat 5: ace803 ($89.85)
Seat 6: Loose Lou ($69.35)
Seat 7: tiemoneysd ($80) >>>> sat out
Seat 8: Crocolyle ($217.66)
Seat 9: TraynWrecker420 ($191)
ace803: posts small blind $1
Loose Lou: posts big blind $2

>>> HOLE CARDS <<<
Dealt to Anosmic [Ad Ks]
Crocolyle: folds
TraynWrecker420: folds
eightoften: calls $2
Anosmic: raises $7 to $9
restarted: folds
LQQKIN4WIN: folds
ace803: calls $8
Loose Lou: folds
eightoften: folds

>>> FLOP <<< [Ah Js As]
ace803: checks
Anosmic: bets $10
ace803: raises $10 to $20
Anosmic: calls $10

>>> TURN <<< [Ah Js As] [5h]
ace803: checks
Anosmic: checks

>>> RIVER <<< [Ah Js As 5h] [3d]
ace803: bets $60.85 and is all-in

Call or Fold?

I am not sure here. Not sure about the flat call on the flop.
No great reads available at this stage (although he'd been whining a fair bit for the last few hands... but not enough to make me think tilt).
06-21-2006, 07:59 AM
majorj

Definitely a call. You shouldve rereraised on the flop, i think.
06-21-2006, 08:21 AM
jameseyb

No flushes, no straights, if he's got an ace (likely) then it's either going to be with the same kicker as yours or weaker, with only AJ causing you issues. Would you really call that pre-flop raise with AJ? Not sure I would.

If he's holding a pair, then it's got to be good enough to call your raise and re-raise you on the flop, so JJ is possible, otherwise if it's a larger pair, QQ or KK, then you are ahead. Same with a smaller pair. Is 55 or 33 likely given the raise at the flop?

Ok, it's vague and I'm shit at spotting what hands people are holding, but I'd put him on either a medium to high pair, with either a boat or two pair.

All in all, I'd have called and then been upset when he showed down a boat.

J

p.s. what happened?
06-21-2006, 08:23 AM
givememyleg

Re: Call here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anosmic

Texas Holdem No Limit ($1/$2)

Seat 1: eightoften ($43.05)
Seat 2: Anosmic ($112.95)
Seat 3: restarted ($97.30)
Seat 4: LQQKIN4WIN ($175.75) [button]
Seat 5: ace803 ($89.85)
Seat 6: Loose Lou ($69.35)
Seat 7: tiemoneysd ($80) >>>> sat out
Seat 8: Crocolyle ($217.66)
Seat 9: TraynWrecker420 ($191)

Why only 56 bbs??? Always play the full within your roll.

Also, villian only has 45 bbs here. I would have got it in on the flop or turn. He could have AJ, but judging by the fact he is a short stack, and shorties are usually fish, A9 AT AQ all wouldn't suprise me.

If you were a full stack this would be an easier decision.
06-21-2006, 08:42 AM
jyms

When did you get to the 200NL tables anosmic? you've been gone for a while and now your back and playing big time??
06-21-2006, 09:46 AM
Anosmic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

When did you get to the 200NL tables anosmic? you've been gone for a while and now your back and playing big time??

No, fraid not.

No I'm not rolled for 200NL. I was just playing in this particular game while I wait to clear a bonus. JetSetPoker sucks donkeys and I want out as quick as possible. I should probably just quit and move to Paradise or something, but I'm about 75% of the way to a bonus, so it's hard to give up...

In this case I folded (actually ran out of time, trying to decide). He was totally bluffing, he set it up with the c/r and it threw me.
06-21-2006, 09:47 AM
Cocco_Bill

Almost looks like you are playing scared...

Bet the turn. Easy river call.
06-21-2006, 09:56 AM
Anosmic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill

Almost looks like you are playing scared...

Bet the turn. Easy river call.

Maybe a bit :)

But mainly I have this drill-sergeant like voice shouting "Respect the Check-Raise!" when this sort of thing comes up. Perhaps overcompensating for earlier stupidity.
06-21-2006, 10:02 AM
Cocco_Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anosmic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill

Almost looks like you are playing scared...

Bet the turn. Easy river call.

Maybe a bit :)

But mainly I have this drill-sergeant like voice shouting "Respect the Check-Raise!" when this sort of thing comes up. Perhaps overcompensating for earlier stupidity.

Bottom line is that you have trip aces with top kicker against a short stack. There is no way its ever correct to fold this, your problem in this hand is to find a line to get all his money in.
06-21-2006, 12:57 PM
Xanadu

Just how good of a hand do you want to get your chips in? Do you always back down to a little aggression without the nuts? Seriously, get some chips in on the flop or turn. That turn check behind was horrible. Think of the huge amounts of hands that check-raise the flop that you beat compared to the 2 unlikely hands that beat you. You have every A but AJ beat, all pocket pairs but JJ beat, he could also be making that play with any J, any 2 broadways, or setting you up for a bluff. You are way ahead against most players' range for this action. You are probably ahead 90% of the time or more on the flop. Go for his stack.
06-21-2006, 01:21 PM
midas06

The turn check isn't bad if you're inducing a riverbluff
06-21-2006, 01:41 PM
chardrian

Quote:

Originally Posted by midas06

The turn check isn't bad if you're inducing a riverbluff

Yeah, but it is bad if you will then fold to the bluff.
06-21-2006, 02:10 PM
jyms

You have to play for stacks here. I'd re-raise the flop and try right there to get him to put in his stack. As far as fish are concerned with short stacks, there is more than one in this hand then. What do ya put him on JJ is the only problem. But I don't think he checks the turn with it. AJ probably not with the preflop call. Most likely Ax or small PP. I say PP because he checked the flop and reraised to see where he was or if you were just using scare cards to take it right there. If you don't get him all in on the flop, bet the turn to find out where he's at and I'd almost bet he hit his pp on the river.