PP 10/20 - Combo Draw on turn vs NIT

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06-08-2006, 04:04 PM
w32e1

PP 10/20 - Combo Draw on turn vs NIT

Villain here is about 11/5 over a 1k hand sample - very nitty, I figured a set here - called figured I could probably push him off of high OP or set with my push here, maybe slightly overplayed this though, my standard line for this type of hand would be check/call flop lead turn - figured I'd switch it up.

Comments on all streets welcome.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed)

BB ($2451)
UTG ($2607)
Hero ($2630)
MP1 ($2857)
MP2 ($1479)
CO ($2599)
Button ($2594)
SB ($4965.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9:spade:, 8:spade:. SB posts a blind of $10.
1 fold, Hero raises to $66, MP1 calls $66, MP2 calls $66, 4 folds.

Flop: ($228) 7:heart:, 2:spade:, 6:heart: (3 players)
Hero bets $180, MP1 raises to $390, MP2 folds, Hero calls $210.

Turn: ($1008) 4:spade: (2 players)
Hero calls $2174 (All-In)???, MP1 calls $2174.
06-08-2006, 04:54 PM
gabe

pretty bad against a nit.
06-08-2006, 05:21 PM
w32e1

I love the 1 liners, try suggesting a line please.
06-08-2006, 05:31 PM
gabe

a nit is not folding a set here because hero's line looks alot like what hero has.

checking and calling is infinitely better. theres no need to bet or raise without the made hand here with no folding equity.
06-08-2006, 05:33 PM
gabe

also, i have to post lots of one liners to keep my words per post down, plz excuse them
06-08-2006, 05:52 PM
a500lbgorilla

nice_post_gabe
06-08-2006, 05:56 PM
w32e1

Results: He calls shows 66 and I river my flush booyaka :)
06-08-2006, 06:01 PM
gabe

grim results
06-08-2006, 06:13 PM
w32e1

if by grin you mean ship it, then yes grim.
06-08-2006, 06:25 PM
dsaxton

I'd just check-call turn, then move in on the river if your hit your hand, or if a heart falls and he still has a lot of money behind.

I don't really understand your play here at all. You put him on a set, then just decide to give him your money by going all-in with 9 high when he's never folding.
06-08-2006, 06:30 PM
zenbitz

Re: PP 10/20 - Combo Draw on turn vs NIT

Quote:

Originally Posted by w32e1

called figured I could probably push him off of high OP or set

You push alot of guys off sets repping the 58 straight?
06-08-2006, 06:33 PM
w32e1

Ya like I said I'm not quite sure about my play here either I just dont see him reraising me on this flop with air, and I could rule out AA KK so I was 50/50 between overpair and set I have no idea really lol
06-08-2006, 06:40 PM
w32e1

Re: PP 10/20 - Combo Draw on turn vs NIT

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenbitz

Quote:

Originally Posted by w32e1

called figured I could probably push him off of high OP or set

You push alot of guys off sets repping the 58 straight?

Ment to type I could push him off high overpair but NOT a set... so it was pretty much 50/50 for me with that mindset I pushed, I dislike my play eventhough it worked.
06-08-2006, 06:42 PM
gabe

stop trying to rationalize a mistake someone else made, its not worth it
06-09-2006, 12:46 AM
Irisheyes

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

nice_post_gabe

genius
06-09-2006, 01:44 AM
bigred

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

nice_post_gabe

So this is how you guys get such high post counts. And here I am only posting in the commune like a sucker.
06-09-2006, 07:19 PM
Lukie

This thread made me laugh so hard...

Anyway, w32e1, to be honest, I think check/push and check/call are both better lines then open-pushing on the turn. If you think there's a decent chance that he has an overpair and will muck it, c/r ai is the best play. However, I find that a player of these stats quite often has a set here in which case c/c is the best play, and is what I would recommend.
06-09-2006, 07:20 PM
Lukie

also, nobody is folding a set here, ever. No way are they going to give you credit for 85 or 35, nor should they.