Is This A Young Person's Game?
I know that some will berate me for my usual negativity and despondency, and term this as just another excuse for my poor play, but I've been noting over my time on this forum, that the people who seem to be winning the most and moving up the quickest are, by my judgement, kids.
Is there something to this? Is it like most other sports or games, including lawn bowling, where youth has the definite edge?
I realise that there are older pros out there, but that is irrelvant to my discussion topic: are older novices -- like my aging self -- simply at a disadvantage due to a number of physcial and psychological reasons?
Of course, it could be the demographics of this particular site, or it could be that I'm making a grandiose assumption, but in any case, I hope for a lively discussion.
Jigs
Re: Is This A Young Person's Game?
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are older novices -- like my aging self -- simply at a disadvantage due to a number of physcial and psychological reasons?
No, I don't think so, not unless you're one of those old farts that can't learn new things. I'm 47 and started playing a little over a year ago. I'm looking forward to crushing the game well into retirement.
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I realise that there are older pros out there, but that is irrelvant to my discussion topic: are older novices -- like my aging self -- simply at a disadvantage due to a number of physcial and psychological reasons?
I think a lot of older novices are at a disadvantage because they never really learned the game, or were taught/learned poorly and now they are stuck in their ways. And people put way too much emphasis on stuff like, ok, i'm in this position with this action, what's my range? as if there's a certain group of hands it's always correct to do this, where it's always correct to do that, and stuff like that.
If you want to take your game to a new level, focus more on stuff like position, agression, and reads. And for god's sake, just forget you ever heard of the stupid, idiotic 10:1 PP rule. Seriously, it makes no sense and has no practical application to a real game. Just stuff like that holds people back where bad advice is drilled into their minds and they accept it as true.
Also, like any forum, there's going to be a lot of bad advice on FTR. But it seems like on this site, that bad advice isn't attacked like it is elsewhere. It's almost as if people don't want to hurt other people's feelings so they let it slide. Some posters probably can't differentiate between good advice and blatantly terrible advice because they just aren't experienced enough to do so. And that's kind of why I come off as harsh when I come across something that's blatantly wrong, because stuff like that can poison a lot of people's minds without them even realizing it. And then they defend it because they think it's some holy grail...
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Originally Posted by Lukie
Also, like any forum, there's going to be a lot of bad advice on FTR. But it seems like on this site, that bad advice isn't attacked like it is elsewhere. It's almost as if people don't want to hurt other people's feelings so they let it slide. Some posters probably can't differentiate between good advice and blatantly terrible advice because they just aren't experienced enough to do so. And that's kind of why I come off as harsh when I come across something that's blatantly wrong, because stuff like that can poison a lot of people's minds without them even realizing it. And then they defend it because they think it's some holy grail...
I agree with this a lot actually and find myself doing it. Sometimes Ill be reading a thread and there will be 3 posts all agreeing with somethin g I disagree with and I usually just wont post something unless I think its so wrong that I need to point it out. This gives our forum a much more "community" feel to it, but that isnt always the best way. Over at 2+2 you will see incredibly heated arguments, but they are all started to try to discourage the spread of bad advice. So while it may be more "hostile" there, sometimes its easier to see what the good and bad advice is.
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Originally Posted by Lukie
Also, like any forum, there's going to be a lot of bad advice on FTR. But it seems like on this site, that bad advice isn't attacked like it is elsewhere. It's almost as if people don't want to hurt other people's feelings so they let it slide. Some posters probably can't differentiate between good advice and blatantly terrible advice because they just aren't experienced enough to do so. And that's kind of why I come off as harsh when I come across something that's blatantly wrong, because stuff like that can poison a lot of people's minds without them even realizing it. And then they defend it because they think it's some holy grail...
I agree with this a lot actually and find myself doing it. Sometimes Ill be reading a thread and there will be 3 posts all agreeing with somethin g I disagree with and I usually just wont post something unless I think its so wrong that I need to point it out. This gives our forum a much more "community" feel to it, but that isnt always the best way. Over at 2+2 you will see incredibly heated arguments, but they are all started to try to discourage the spread of bad advice. So while it may be more "hostile" there, sometimes its easier to see what the good and bad advice is.
Heh, this has come up a million times. My loyalty is with FTR but I don't understand why people constantly bash 2p2 like this. I've had nothing but good experiences over there, and I've actually been involved in a lot more controversy at FTR then 2p2. :)
Now, the poker environment is definately tougher and more hostile. But I wish our strategy forums were more like that. It almost seems to have an effect on the players as the 2p2 players are generally tougher, more agressive, and better players then the ones found here. I'm doing my best to change that.
