they have QQ-AA.
y/n?
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they have QQ-AA.
y/n?
i assume you mean min-raise?Quote:
Originally Posted by samsonite2100
Yeah, that's what I meant--preflop
i say no. it does not always mean that.
ive minraised utg w/o those hands, so no.
OK, I was kind of going for a laugh w/ the "every time" bit, but seriously, 80/90% of the time? I see it constantly...
Do you mean if you raise say 4BB, they make it 8BB - or that they raise an unraised pot to 2BB?
When someone minraises like that I put them to be a donkey and call with my PP or SC in position and pray that I outflop them and take a stack.
I'd say roughly half of the time a random utg minraiser will have a monster hand, while the other half of the time it represents a marginally strong hand. Definitely not 80-90% of the time.
nah they usually just limp in
They raise an unraised pot to two BB.Quote:
Do you mean if you raise say 4BB, they make it 8BB - or that they raise an unraised pot to 2BB?
Yeah, this actually seems right. I guess it just always stands out when people do it. I will say that on Bodog it might be more like 75% of the time--I need to take a break from that site, it's skewing my poker worldview...Quote:
I'd say roughly half of the time a random utg minraiser will have a monster hand, while the other half of the time it represents a marginally strong hand.
It happens alot on party;some people will honestly minraise AA/KK/AKs/QQ and then overbet the flop once they get their $3 pot.I usually call looking for a monster since they've priced us all in.
Minraise UTG is in and of itself undefining. It's player specific.
I have noticed this too, but I put it kinda different for myself. It's not "minraise - uh oh he has AA/KK/QQ".. more like "minraise - be aware that it might very well be a monster". Sometimes it's really just a marginally good hand however. A few showdowns will make you all the wiser here, since people don't often change their habits.Quote:
Originally Posted by samsonite2100
Yesterday I bled a guy dry because I saw through his habit of "raising crap 8BB and continu to bluff it hard" and "minraising real hands". I added 2/3 to my stack because I called him down with AK on his hefty raises (river was check/check and I won with A high), and a bit later called his minraise with a suited gapper and hit two crappy pair and took the remainder of his stack on his AA. This was all pretty read-based, because in the latter case there were also flush/straight options so I don't normally put my stack on bottom two pair but in this case I figured it would be AA/KK (maybe QQ or overplayed AK).
And a special thanks goes to the smallstack who called him down on his hard preflop raises and clued me off to his weird habit! :)
anytime anyone open-minraises UTG they are a donkey. Thats pretty much all you can say. Ive seen it with AA, Axs, 66, JTs and all sorts. It basically means they suck.
IT'S CALLED A STRADDLE
i use this strat too ^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
if i have a pp of 10-10 or j-j i like to reraise an amount that will trigger a reraise by a monster hand preflop, to find out if i'm beat preflop
WTF???Quote:
Originally Posted by samsonite2100
NO
You've been waiting for just the right time to do that, huh?
If I send you chocolates, will we be good?
I LOOOVE straddling in home games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triptan3s
But that's neither here nor there.
haha ya,Quote:
Originally Posted by samsonite2100
and ya. :)
No, it's usually something like KQ/AQ/AJ/AT/TTish trying to get you to define your hand on the cheap. I often re-raise these.
Anything wrong with doing this with small PP's as a blocking bet from a potential larger raise from the button with garbage?
Jsut raise normal with a PP-$1 and call any reraises looking to set and stack.No need to block bet preflop.
oh for gods sakeQuote:
Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
NL25, 100bb eff stacks
Fleury opens for $1 in MP with 22.
Lukie repops him to $3.35 in the CO with ??.
Who's getting the best of it here?
If you think it's Fleury, you are wrong.
If you think it's even close, you are wrong.
Believe it or not, you don't always win someone's stack when you hit a set.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
Yeah, that and you don't always win the hand with a set.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcatdog
Let's go back to my example.
Lukie is on the CO with AdKd.
Fleury opens for $1 with 22.
Lukie pot-raises to $3.35.
everyone folds but Fleury who calls.
Flop 2d 3c 8d. BINGO!!!
Fleury checks. Lukie bets $5. Fleury pushes all-in. Lukie calls.
Pot is $50. Just because fleury is a big favorite here (3:1), doesn't mean he should be entitled to the entire pot. He only has about 75% equity. He's put in $25 and has $37 equity, netting $12. In this instance, even given that he DID get it allin on the flop with a big edge, in hindsight, he still only got 6:1 in implied odds even given the fact that he got it allin, which he usually won't in this situation.