3 Hands from this afternoon

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04-13-2006, 10:50 PM
Vinterriket

3 Hands from this afternoon

Just a few hands for comments.

Hand 1: Is limping with AJo on the button with alot of limpers in front a good idea? After a bet and a call do you raise flop? I had a read on sanford that he seemed to bet exactly the value of his hand, so when he slowed down on the turn I felt he Q scared him, would you try to take it down here or just call? He checks river so I think at best he also has AJ, so I value bet. thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($26.95)
Hero ($25.50)
SB ($33.45)
BB ($6.80)
UTG ($11.10)
UTG+1 ($33.80)
MP1 ($7.85)
MP2 ($23.50)
MP3 ($14.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A:heart:, J:spade:.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.35) 7:club:, J:club:, T:spade: (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.55, MP1 calls $0.55, Hero calls $0.55, BB folds, UTG calls $0.55.

Turn: ($3.55) Q:diamond: (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $1.25, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.25, UTG folds.

River: ($6.05) 2:diamond: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $8.05

Hand 2: Comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($25.30)
Hero ($27.35)
CO ($33.75)
Button ($3.35)
SB ($11.70)
BB ($31.15)
UTG ($8.45)
UTG+1 ($8.50)
MP1 ($19.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9:heart:, 8:heart:.
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.35, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.10.

Flop: ($4.30) T:heart:, 5:heart:, 8:club: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $10.35, UTG calls $7.10 (All-In), Hero calls $7.35.

Hand 3: Comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($24.75)
Hero ($23.15)
CO ($24.55)
Button ($7.35)
SB ($3.95)
BB ($4.50)
UTG ($18.75)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($25.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4:diamond:, 5:diamond:.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB raises to $1, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.50) 3:heart:, Q:diamond:, 2:diamond: (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.15, Button folds, SB calls $2.95 (All-In), UTG+1 folds.
04-13-2006, 11:42 PM
martindcx1e

Hand 1 - I hate having AJo in a limped pot against 4 opponents. I also hate raising enough w/ AJo behind 3 limpers to narrow down the field. I would probably raise or fold. Flop I would probably raise to try to get out any draws. On the river you must call if you thought your hand was good on the turn.

Hand 2 - I'd probably play the same.

Hand 3 - Sucks you only got shorty along for the ride. I get my money in any way possible here.
04-14-2006, 02:07 AM
bair

raise hand 1, others are fine
04-14-2006, 05:26 AM
JL

Hand 1: UTG +1 has 2 clubs and is buying a turn card for as cheaply as possible...I raise flop here 100% of the time...

Hand 2: Why are your raising 89s preflop after 1 limper? Flop play is fine.

Hand 3: nice flop for you.
04-14-2006, 10:58 AM
piratepeaty

Hand 1 : I raise preflop most of the time. No one has shown any strength, you probably have the best hand, you have position for the rest of the hand and you can set yourself up for a free card play in the event of a flopping a draw. This is awesome, because if the pot is raised and called multi-way it will be a large pot. Limping is ok. Folding IN POSITION with a STRONG hand is out of the question. It is a definate mistake. If it were raised, I may find a fold some of the time.

H1 Flop: Raise. UTG+1 puts in a weak bet, and it is very likely there are a few hands drawing. You also probably have the best hand, raise it for value against QJ, KJ, draws ect. You also want to save yourself against a gutshot that could call profitably here.

If that isn't enough reason to raise, you also have a BD draw that may save your life if behind. I don't see any other play in this situation.

H1 turn : As played, I usually just call. You have picked up a gutshot, and if you are up against QJ, it would suck having to fold to a reraise.

H1 River: I sometimes bet here, but i'd be inclined to check against a tricky opponent or a very tight player.

H2: preflop: That is a big reraise in early position. I only make this play when I want to isolate UTG. I'm not sure what you are doing here.

H2: Flop: Fine.

H3: Also fine.
04-14-2006, 11:48 AM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by JL

Hand 2: Why are your raising 89s preflop after 1 limper? Flop play is fine.

I think this is fine if you play well post-flop. When I'm in CO or Button I'm raising anything remotely playable behind only 1 limper and almost always repping the flop. You'll be surprised how many small pots you pick up, and it'll do wonders for your monsters.
04-14-2006, 12:20 PM
piratepeaty

Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by JL

Hand 2: Why are your raising 89s preflop after 1 limper? Flop play is fine.

I think this is fine if you play well post-flop. When I'm in CO or Button I'm raising anything remotely playable behind only 1 limper and almost always repping the flop. You'll be surprised how many small pots you pick up, and it'll do wonders for your monsters.

I agree in CO or on the Button.

I also don't mind it in early position once in a while, but not simply for 'mixing it up'. I think playing hands differently for the sake of confusing your opponents is over-used. The main reason is that you rarely show down a hand in NL, especially in a raised pot from early position because they are usually HU.

You should usually take table dynamics into consideration. For example, if you can expect alot of cold-callers behind, you might be getting good implied odd for when you hit big. Alternatively, if UTG calls raises once he limps, and doesn't limp-raise I think you can Isolate him using this move. In that case, the rest of the table would have to fold most of the time.
04-14-2006, 01:22 PM
Vinterriket

I'm trying to increase the amount of positional-based play in my gameplan. So I am experimenting with more isolational raises, etc.

Keep in mind that I really am a sng and mtt player so the nuances of ring are taking some getting used to. Ring seems to be significantly more positional-based and read-based so I'm practicing in those areas.
04-14-2006, 01:40 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinterriket

I'm trying to increase the amount of positional-based play in my gameplan. So I am experimenting with more isolational raises, etc.

Keep in mind that I really am a sng and mtt player so the nuances of ring are taking some getting used to. Ring seems to be significantly more positional-based and read-based so I'm practicing in those areas.

At least you are aggressive! That is so important. Ya position rules the day. Keep it up and good luck.