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03-29-2006, 12:58 AM
BankItDrew

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PokerStars Game #4450269137: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/03/29 - 00:50:57 (ET)
Table 'Hermippe' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jjonesr5 ($49.85 in chips)
Seat 2: BankItDrew ($52 in chips)
Seat 3: 4CHN8 ($50 in chips)
Seat 4: kchenneth ($51 in chips)
Seat 5: schuwdr ($18.95 in chips)
Seat 6: frosty85 ($36.40 in chips)
Seat 7: magicchamp ($58.25 in chips)
Seat 8: foxygirl1983 ($48.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Baalim ($150.65 in chips)
magicchamp: posts small blind $0.25
foxygirl1983: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BankItDrew [Ah Ac]
Baalim: calls $0.50
jjonesr5: calls $0.50
BankItDrew: raises $2.50 to $3
4CHN8: folds
kchenneth: folds
schuwdr: folds
frosty85: folds
magicchamp: folds
foxygirl1983: calls $2.50
Baalim: calls $2.50
jjonesr5: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s 8d 9d]
foxygirl1983: checks
Baalim: bets $6
BankItDrew: raises $9 to $15
foxygirl1983: folds
Baalim: calls $9
*** TURN *** [5s 8d 9d] [7c]
Baalim: bets $20
BankItDrew: ??????????
03-29-2006, 01:11 AM
jackvance

Hm weird.. seems superfluous for a set or straight.. maybe he is holding TT?
03-29-2006, 07:50 AM
DaHorror

Probably need a read for this one. Looks like he might be the big stack because he's loose and sucks out.
Could be two pair that hit on the turn...4 different set-hunters have made it, as did JT and 66. TT is definitely a possibilty.

I think you may have to give this one up with no read, and since his turn bet kinda commits you.
03-29-2006, 10:26 AM
lolzzz_321

fold
03-29-2006, 11:04 AM
Rondavu

This is very read based. This is exactly the kind of cash hand that separates the men from the boys IMO. You have to be able to put the villain on a tight range, and imagine how they would play each hand in that group. If the story is bad you push.

Take stack size, and villains potential read on you into account. How much fold equity does the villain feel he has? Is there a reason for him to use it if he has a hand that beats you on that turn?

Overall my guess is that you're ahead, without having a lot of the information.
03-29-2006, 11:17 AM
Renton

I fold here. JTs of diamonds and 55, 77, 88, 99 play exactly like this. All you beat is TT-KK, which don't really play like this. He could have limped TT-JJ in early, but most people tend to raise QQ-KK.
03-29-2006, 11:32 AM
Warpe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

I fold here. JTs of diamonds and 55, 77, 88, 99 play exactly like this. All you beat is TT-KK, which don't really play like this. He could have limped TT-JJ in early, but most people tend to raise QQ-KK.
03-29-2006, 12:43 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

JTs of diamonds and 55, 77, 88, 99 play exactly like this.

Ummm... no... all of those holding could show one of a few different lines depending on the other player. This is a kinda weird line from our opponent and I really want to know what kind of hands he's playing pre-flop and how often he continues on the flop before committing to a decision.
03-29-2006, 01:38 PM
BankItDrew

This was my first hand against villain, and only a few minutes into sitting down. I can tell you that I watched him closely for a couple thousand hands afterwards (both of us were multi-tabling (he was on 3 of mine), and noticed that he played very few hands... <15% is my guess. I won every pot I was involved with him after this hand, as I found he was really easy to push around. He didn't call a single flop bet for the rest of the night.
03-30-2006, 12:12 PM
DaHorror

Given that read, then a limp-call from UTG is 22-TT.
TT could still play exactly like this - but you're basically saying that this guy is tight and gives up easily if he's not sure he's ahead...

His turn bet looks just a tad high for value, but then, it's at half the pot (so that he's not giving you odds to the flush, just in case you're drawing since he can't be 100% sure that you don't have AKd), and he may figure you'll push over. Obviously he's not folding for your last $15.

The only screwy thing I see about the hand, that lends itself toward TT, is that he doesn't 3-bet the flop, but then leads the turn when it just happened to make TT open-ended.
If he's not giving chase odds on the turn because he's not 100% sure that you're not chasing, why not 3-bet the flop?
If he puts you on an overpair 100%, then why lead the turn so hard? I would expect him to lead more like $10-$15 tops since any reraising you do then will pretty much pot-commit you.