KQs early in the tournament

This is a poker stars 5 +.5. Hero is Ron_O
How do you play this? Raise preflop? no real reads.

PokerStars Game #4311573322: Tournament #21439506, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/03/16 - 20:21:50 (ET)
Table '21439506 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: cincyohio1 (1390 in chips)
Seat 2: Ron_0 (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: jimlabarb (1375 in chips)
Seat 4: Slim Pikns (1430 in chips)
Seat 5: GMANPOOL (1525 in chips)
Seat 6: MN Aaron (2635 in chips)
Seat 7: lady61 (1160 in chips)
Seat 8: derek182 (655 in chips)
Seat 9: daveandgrif (1910 in chips)
lady61: posts small blind 15
derek182: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ron_0 [Qs Ks]
daveandgrif: folds
cincyohio1: calls 30
Ron_0: calls 30
jimlabarb: folds
Slim Pikns: calls 30
GMANPOOL: folds
MN Aaron: calls 30
lady61: calls 15
derek182: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kh 8d Jh]
lady61: bets 30
derek182: folds
cincyohio1: calls 30
Ron_0: raises 170 to 200
Slim Pikns: calls 200
MN Aaron: folds
lady61: calls 170
cincyohio1: folds
*** TURN *** [Kh 8d Jh] [6c]
lady61: bets 30
Ron_0: calls 30
Slim Pikns: calls 30
*** RIVER *** [Kh 8d Jh 6c] [6d]
lady61: bets 30
Ron_0: calls 30
Slim Pikns: calls 30

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UTG+1 (t1390)
Hero (t1420)
MP2 (t1375)
MP3 (t1430)
CO (t1525)
Button (t2635)
SB (t1160)
BB (t655)
UTG (t1910)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q:spade:, K:spade:.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, Hero calls t30, 1 fold, MP3 calls t30, 1 fold, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t180) K:heart:, 8:diamond:, J:heart: (6 players)
SB bets t30, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t30, Hero raises to t200, MP3 calls t200, Button folds, SB calls t170, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t810) 6:club: (3 players)
SB bets t30, Hero calls t30, MP3 calls t30.

River: (t900) 6:diamond: (3 players)

Final Pot: t900

Some people will say to fold KQs preflop in early position early in a SNG, depending on your feel for the table that can be the right play; however, limping isnt a horrible choice either. Im fairly unsure of the play here though. I like the raise on the flop, but if you are showing that much aggression you cant just slow down and call the turn and the river. I think a raise on the turn is needed and then go from there. What do others think about this? How would you play this?[/url]

AUTO FOLD!

I know others disagree, but I don't hate the limp preflop either, particularly because your KQ is soooooted. If raised I'm definitely throwing it away though unless it's a minraise and lots of other players call.

On the flop the raise is good, although with a minbetter and a caller in front I make it a bit bigger, maybe 250 to go. On the turn, you can't flat call the minbet, I reckon at least one of your opps is drawing to the heart flush, why let them see the river for cheap? I raise to 300 on the turn. If called I will probably try to check it down on the river in case you're up against a slowplayed set or two pair.

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Originally Posted by thnwkd

AUTO FOLD!

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bah, too tight

$5 + .50 = major fishage, top pair with shit kicker or even a jack. Your play is alright although I might have stabbed the turn.

I would advocate a fold as well.

However, as played, when you take the lead and raise the flop, I don't see how you can then call behind a crappy minimum bet on the turn (30 into an 810 pot?!?!!?). Raise the crap out of that.

There can't be too many (if any) hands that you fear here.

Alot of people like limping A Q first of all.
I can see the problem with K Q suited or not. No raises coming from anywhere... Its a playable hand maybe from 1 off the button or in the blinds with no raises. I think you have to know when to let it go though. And the other problem with it is... I can tell you how many Ace high straights I had to split pot with this hand. I have learned not to play this hand in early position though. Iam surely not calling any raises with it. With both of those thoughts said.. Really what good is K Q? Its a great hand in the BB when the flop comes Q K 4. Its good for straights and I play it like any other suited connector if its suited.. No better IMO than 76 suited. But its not a real money maker.. Flop comes Q 7 9 ... youre first to act .. You going lead out and really feel confident you have the best hand? K Q is good for HU pushing and calling.

The limp pre flop is fine if your table is not too aggressive. Why did you just call on the turn and the flop?

Only one hand really worries me here, and that's KJ... Still, I think it pops the turn. I'm putting in a nice value bet on the river, if I don't raise the turn.

Thanks all for the responses.

I think the consensus is to fold preflop.

Following my post flop bet I didn't know what to do.
The villan calls my raise then fires a min bet on the turn. I was worried about a KJ and 88 and he was trying to trap me.

I didnt consider the flush draw. I got tunnel vison about the KJ or 88 and just wanted to try to show it down as cheap as possible.

In retrospect I guess I would expect KJ or 88 to be a bit more aggressive with the flush draw out there.

Thanks again for the input. Anyone who is curious about the out come...

SB shows: KC8H two pair K's and 8's
MP3 shows: JC4C Pair of J's