Hi guys.
Please let me know if this is in the appropriate part of the fora...
I wanted your collective wisdom about a couple of beats I suffered on draws
A bit of background:
I play on PP, PLHE for the past little while and have managed to turn a small profit. This is over a relatively small number of hands (a thousand, give or take), so I'm pretty inexperienced. However it seems like I've been able to break roughly even against skilled players (largely by avoiding them!) and picking on the fish.
With my bankroll slightly engorged I thought I'd try NL/$25... and suffered the following:
From what I observed:Code:***** Hand History for Game XXXXX *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em -
Table Table XXXXX (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 4: player 4 ( $33.80 )
Seat 5: player 5 ( $20.85 )
Seat 9: player 9 ( $17.96 )
Seat 10: player 10 ( $24.60 )
Seat 3: me ( $13 )
Seat 1: player 1( $47.30 )
Seat 8: player 8( $51.90 )
Seat 7: player 7( $19.20 )
Seat 6: player 6 ( $24.75 )
pplayer posts small blind [$0.10].
player posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to me [ Qs Ks ]
player 7 folds.
player 8 folds.
player 9 calls [$0.25].
player 1 raises [$1].
me calls [$1].
...rest fold...
player 9 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Js, 2d ]
player 9 checks.
player 1 bets [$1.75].
me calls [$1.75].
player 9 raises [$6].
player 1 calls [$4.25].
me calls [$4.25].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
Player 9 is all-In [$10.96]
player 1 calls [$10.96].
me is all-In [$6]
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
Player 9 shows [ 2s, 2c ] a full house, Twos full of jacks.
Player 1 shows [ Kh, Kc ] two pairs, kings and jacks.
me doesn't show [ Qs, Ks ] a pair of jacks.
Player 9 wins $9.42 from side pot #1 with a full house, Twos full of jacks.
Player 9 wins $37.40 from the main pot with a full house, Twos full of jacks.
Player 9: tight
Player 1: tight, quite skilled
Obviously player 9 sucked out. Other than a possibly marginal call on the flop (and I thought there was a good chance that player 9 would call), what did I do wrong?
On the flop:
- I didn't try too hard to put player 1 on a hand... thought probably a pair.
- looking back I played this hand passively. but should I have raised on the flop?!
Here's another:
In the second instance, was the raise on the flop the right size? Should I have gone all-in instead?Code:
***** Hand History for Game XXXXXX *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - 2005
Table Table XXXXX (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: player 4 ( $21.05 )
Seat 9: player 9( $50.82 )
Seat 3: me ( $8.40 )
Seat 7: player 7 ( $15.35 )
Seat 6: player 6 ( $21.75 )
Seat 8: player 8 ( $41.45 )
Seat 2: player 2 ( $21.90 )
Seat 10: player 10( $25.50 )
Seat 5: player 5( $13.05 )
Seat 1: player 1( $25 )
Me posts small blind [$0.10].
Player 4 posts big blind [$0.25].
player 1posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to me [ Ad Jd ]
player 6 calls [$0.25].
player7 calls [$0.25].
player 8 calls [$0.25].
Player 9 folds.
player 10 calls [$0.25].
player 1 checks.
player 2 raises [$2.10].
me calls [$2].
Player 4 folds.
player 6 folds.
player 7 folds.
player 8folds.
player 10 folds.
player 5 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 7c, 5d ]
me bets [$3].
player 2 raises [$8].
me is all-In [$3.30]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
player 2 shows [ Ah, 8d ] a straight, four to eight.
me doesn't show [ Ad, Jd ] a pair of fives.
player 2wins $1.70 from side pot #1 with a straight, four to eight.
player 2 wins $17.40 from the main pot with a straight, four to eight.
It did occur to me that AJ(s) might be up against some high pair, but I figured I'd have a decent chance to see a good draw and maybe get paid.
I guess my question is this: I have overcards (granted, against a pretty big preflop raise) and what should be the top draw. Player 2 was relatively new to the table.
Was I just unlucky that he hit one of his eight outs?
Thanks in advance... again.
