These two hands...

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I'm very new to poker (i'm playing 2 month, HLNL at the lowest tables, ring games and sng).

These are two hands i played at empire and i wonder if i played it well. I had these things in mind while playing: play tight. if i want to play a hand, raise it - dont call and be aggressive.

***** Hand History for Game 2143875072 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 02, 16:36:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 36604 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: jibber9 ( $20.4 )
Seat 2: neosox3 ( $32.85 )
Seat 3: hersham ( $35.88 )
Seat 5: bigred1096 ( $41.45 )
Seat 6: stinktofu ( $24.05 )
Seat 7: Red_Cassie ( $24.75 )
Seat 8: Willy48 ( $14.5 )
Seat 10: POON31 ( $10.75 )
Seat 9: Doublethe7 ( $24.75 )
Seat 4: JMoney310 ( $19.3 )
Red_Cassie posts small blind [$0.1].
Willy48 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Doublethe7 [ 3s 3h ]
Doublethe7 raises [$1].
POON31 folds.
jibber9 folds.
neosox3 calls [$1].
hersham folds.
JMoney310 calls [$1].
bigred1096 calls [$1].
stinktofu folds.
Red_Cassie folds.
Willy48 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 6d, 8c ]
Doublethe7 bets [$1].
neosox3 raises [$5].
JMoney310 folds.
bigred1096 folds.
Doublethe7 raises [$9].
neosox3 calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
Doublethe7 bets [$4].
neosox3 calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
Doublethe7 bets [$8].
neosox3 folds.
Doublethe7 does not show cards.
Doublethe7 wins $38.75
Game #2143881217 starts.


#Game No : 2143956257
***** Hand History for Game 2143956257 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 02, 16:56:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 36604 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: jibber9 ( $17.05 )
Seat 3: hersham ( $35.38 )
Seat 5: bigred1096 ( $48 )
Seat 6: stinktofu ( $33.35 )
Seat 7: Red_Cassie ( $26.55 )
Seat 8: Willy48 ( $12.3 )
Seat 10: POON31 ( $11.2 )
Seat 9: Doublethe7 ( $39.25 )
Seat 4: JMoney310 ( $22.65 )
Seat 2: jchuggy ( $25 )
JMoney310 posts small blind [$0.1].
bigred1096 posts big blind [$0.25].
jchuggy posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Doublethe7 [ Ts Th ]
stinktofu calls [$0.25].
Red_Cassie folds.
Willy48 calls [$0.25].
Doublethe7 raises [$1].
POON31 folds.
jibber9 folds.
jchuggy folds.
hersham folds.
JMoney310 folds.
bigred1096 calls [$0.75].
stinktofu folds.
Willy48 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 8d, 3h ]
bigred1096 bets [$0.25].
Willy48 raises [$0.5].
Doublethe7 raises [$1].
bigred1096 calls [$0.75].
Willy48 calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
bigred1096 bets [$5].
Willy48 folds.
Doublethe7 calls [$5].
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
bigred1096 bets [$0.25].
Doublethe7 raises [$2].
bigred1096 raises [$3.5].
Doublethe7 calls [$1.75].
bigred1096 shows [ 6c, 6d ] a full house, Sixes full of threes.
Doublethe7 doesn't show [ Ts, Th ] two pairs, tens and threes.
bigred1096 wins $22.9 from the main pot with a full house, Sixes full of threes.
Game #2143963754 starts.

Thanks for your feedback!

Hand 1: Just limp/call with 33 UTG. If you raise here go 3 to the flop, you're out of position and you'll only feel safe if you flop a set. You're also forced to bet and at the mercy of your opponents. The flop weaklead isnt bad, but when you're raising put something behind it. Yes, he'll call 4 more guarenteed but he should/may also call 6,8, 10 even 12 more. Then you've got a huge pot and your opponent cant justify folding to an AI on the turn or river. The turn bet is as close to slowplaying as you can really get. He's obviously not going to raise again and if he's going to call, he'll probably call more.

Hand 2: Again, your raises are so small there's no way they're going to thin the field. You've got a VERY weak hand and you're building a pot. A bigger pot + multiways + a weak hand = Very bad. You should have raised to 3 or 4 dollars here and make your opps pay to draw. If you still think you're ahead on the turn, you should be going AI and not just calling.

You've gotta bet and raise for good and concious reasons. Right now, you're not really putting any logic behind the values you're raising to or when you're betting/raising. But that will change in time.

-'rilla

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Originally Posted by Doublethe7

First i have to say: You guys rock! This site is really great and im reading almost everthing i can find here!

I'm very new to poker (i'm playing 2 month, HLNL at the lowest tables, ring games and sng).

These are two hands i played at empire and i wonder if i played it well. I had these things in mind while playing: play tight. if i want to play a hand, raise it - dont call and be aggressive.

***** Hand History for Game 2143875072 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 02, 16:36:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 36604 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: jibber9 ( $20.4 )
Seat 2: neosox3 ( $32.85 )
Seat 3: hersham ( $35.88 )
Seat 5: bigred1096 ( $41.45 )
Seat 6: stinktofu ( $24.05 )
Seat 7: Red_Cassie ( $24.75 )
Seat 8: Willy48 ( $14.5 )
Seat 10: POON31 ( $10.75 )
Seat 9: Doublethe7 ( $24.75 )
Seat 4: JMoney310 ( $19.3 )
Red_Cassie posts small blind [$0.1].
Willy48 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Doublethe7 [ 3s 3h ]
Doublethe7 raises [$1].
POON31 folds.
jibber9 folds.
neosox3 calls [$1].
hersham folds.
JMoney310 calls [$1].
bigred1096 calls [$1].
stinktofu folds.
Red_Cassie folds.
Willy48 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 6d, 8c ]
Doublethe7 bets [$1].
neosox3 raises [$5].
JMoney310 folds.
bigred1096 folds.
Doublethe7 raises [$9].
neosox3 calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
Doublethe7 bets [$4].
neosox3 calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
Doublethe7 bets [$8].
neosox3 folds.
Doublethe7 does not show cards.
Doublethe7 wins $38.75
Game #2143881217 starts.


#Game No : 2143956257
***** Hand History for Game 2143956257 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 02, 16:56:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 36604 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: jibber9 ( $17.05 )
Seat 3: hersham ( $35.38 )
Seat 5: bigred1096 ( $48 )
Seat 6: stinktofu ( $33.35 )
Seat 7: Red_Cassie ( $26.55 )
Seat 8: Willy48 ( $12.3 )
Seat 10: POON31 ( $11.2 )
Seat 9: Doublethe7 ( $39.25 )
Seat 4: JMoney310 ( $22.65 )
Seat 2: jchuggy ( $25 )
JMoney310 posts small blind [$0.1].
bigred1096 posts big blind [$0.25].
jchuggy posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Doublethe7 [ Ts Th ]
stinktofu calls [$0.25].
Red_Cassie folds.
Willy48 calls [$0.25].
Doublethe7 raises [$1].
POON31 folds.
jibber9 folds.
jchuggy folds.
hersham folds.
JMoney310 folds.
bigred1096 calls [$0.75].
stinktofu folds.
Willy48 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 8d, 3h ]
bigred1096 bets [$0.25].
Willy48 raises [$0.5].
Doublethe7 raises [$1].
bigred1096 calls [$0.75].
Willy48 calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
bigred1096 bets [$5].
Willy48 folds.
Doublethe7 calls [$5].
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
bigred1096 bets [$0.25].
Doublethe7 raises [$2].
bigred1096 raises [$3.5].
Doublethe7 calls [$1.75].
bigred1096 shows [ 6c, 6d ] a full house, Sixes full of threes.
Doublethe7 doesn't show [ Ts, Th ] two pairs, tens and threes.
bigred1096 wins $22.9 from the main pot with a full house, Sixes full of threes.
Game #2143963754 starts.

Thanks for your feedback!

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HAND 1
Hmmm, I don't like the raise preflop. everything else looks g00t. I may push on the turn.

HAND 2
I don't like the raise preflop. You should be scared of the on the turn, it screams I have at least a 3. He trapped you on the river with the min bet you silly TAgg :wink: .

looking to this hands after the game considering your inputs, everything looks pretty obvious to me - during the game it isn't that easy for me :?

thank's for your fast response! i know i have to learn so much about poker and i'm sure here is the best place to so.

Your bets are way too small.