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    Default ZOOM 100NL im scared

    Dude is 10/7/2 over 300 hands, no postflop stats really, no history. I c-bet flop 80% and turn 50%. I have the Ad which makes me confuzzled. He also SNAP checkraised turn and SNAP bet river.

    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    Button ($115.40)
    SB ($234.71)
    BB ($225.60)
    Hero (UTG) ($100)
    UTG+1 ($48.50)
    MP1 ($103.50)
    MP2 ($97.50)
    MP3 ($88.03)
    CO ($12.14)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, Q
    Hero bets $2.50, 7 folds, BB calls $1.50

    Flop: ($5.50) Q, 4, 6 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

    Turn: ($13.50) A (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB raises to $27.10, Hero calls $17.10

    River: ($67.70) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $43.48,
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    Kind of expect he wont have sets given he called an UTG raise from the BB - so discounting 44 66 a lot (not totally)

    Do we know if hes a winning player, becuase if not or borderline b/e then he may be a set mining fit/fold type in which case 66 seems to be there.

    Beyond that was thinking broadway flush hands and QQ (based on 2% pre 3bet) and 10/6 OOP - but like you say you have the A diamonds and Q on the flop so hands like AK/AQ/KQ with diamonds dont cut it. Could it be AK with the K diamonds?

    The only hands that are in the mix, but low likelyhood are QQ/66/AQ and a flush with SCs OOP - but most of those are discounted given its a 10/7 OOP.

    The call flop raise turn suggest a flush i guess and the 10/6 getting the pot big makes me want to fold a lot but...

    Suggesting QQ/66/AKdiamonds/small flush in that order and folding
    Last edited by Miffed22001; 09-08-2012 at 05:21 PM.
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    i really wanna jam as a bluff
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    lol jam as in reraise $25ish all in vs a $43 river bet?
    Am I being dumb in assuming we have no fold equity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Am I being dumb in assuming we have no fold equity?
    No. We have no fold equity. The only hands that fold are weaker ones.

    If he has us beat and we shove river he'll be all like "ahhh fml call".

    I don't think you really need to be betting much more than half pot on turn. I'm inclined to keep weaker hands hanging around with a smaller bet. Kind of hard for villain to make that call with something weaker than our hand, other than KdQx, KxKx, etc.

    FWIW, I don't see much harm in villains calling from BB with small pairs in their spot pre.
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    i´m a litlle bit confused in this spot. I think you play well but may be now it´s fold river...He can catch a suited connectors or flopped a set (i don´t agree with the way he play if he had a set). Difficult but fold i guess
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    Unless you have a strong feeling that he is bluffing I dont see how you can call this. Hard as it is I think you need to fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    If he has us beat and we shove river he'll be all like "ahhh fml call".
    Wait, is that because he totally sucks at poker like all the other nits out there?


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    Dude is too tight to put him on a weaker Aces up. He slowplayed his set or flush until the turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
    Wait, is that because he totally sucks at poker like all the other nits out there?
    Not necessarily. You think if we shove, villain might fold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    Not necessarily. You think if we shove, villain might fold?
    I don't know or even care if he would, but I'm pretty sure that he should, so I like the bluff.


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    He should fold to a ship if that's the kind of range we think he has. I think his range is pretty strong though. Even if he's semi-bluffing or bluffing outright, why not just call?

    It looks like one of those situations where we can't put villain into a spot where he's going to make a mistake.
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    I feel like without reads were sufficiently protected by our nut hands also flatting the turn c/r (AKdd/AJdd/KJdd/TJdd/T9dd/AA/QQ), so we don't really need to bluffcatch even though we have the perfect hand for it.

    If we bet only half pot on the turn like you suggested we'll also have much more room to bluff over a river bet.


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