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    Not much history with villain, seems okay but not great. About a 20/10 guy. River comments especially welcome. I didn't think he was chasing, hence the river push.....how bad is that push?

    FullTiltPoker Game #1728963812: Table Brush - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:46:17 ET - 2007/02/03
    Seat 1: ilduce222 ($65.65), is sitting out
    Seat 2: gcmy888 ($100.90)
    Seat 3: shut_it_up ($38.95)
    Seat 4: Whls71 ($36)
    Seat 5: cardsman1992 ($114.65)
    Seat 6: HighcardV ($101.40)
    Seat 7: FireDan ($115.55)
    Seat 8: Rutigar ($75.95)
    Seat 9: jc544 ($119.75)
    jc544 posts the small blind of $0.50
    gcmy888 posts the big blind of $1
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to cardsman1992 [Ac Qc]
    shut_it_up folds
    Whls71 folds
    cardsman1992 raises to $4
    HighcardV has 15 seconds left to act
    HighcardV calls $4
    FireDan folds
    Rutigar calls $4
    jc544 calls $3.50
    gcmy888 folds
    *** FLOP *** [8s Qd Ad]
    jc544 checks
    cardsman1992 bets $12
    HighcardV calls $12
    Rutigar folds
    jc544 folds
    *** TURN *** [8s Qd Ad] [5c]
    cardsman1992 bets $30
    HighcardV has 15 seconds left to act
    HighcardV calls $30
    *** RIVER *** [8s Qd Ad 5c] [Kd]
    cardsman1992 bets $68.65, and is all in
    HighcardV: jesus
    HighcardV has 15 seconds left to act
    HighcardV calls $55.40, and is all in
    Uncalled bet of $13.25 returned to cardsman1992
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    cardsman1992 shows [Ac Qc] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
    HighcardV shows [8d 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
    HighcardV wins the pot ($208.80) with three of a kind, Eights
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $211.80 | Rake $3
    Board: [8s Qd Ad 5c Kd]
    Seat 1: ilduce222 is sitting out
    Seat 2: gcmy888 (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: shut_it_up didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: Whls71 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: cardsman1992 showed [Ac Qc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
    Seat 6: HighcardV showed [8d 8c] and won ($208.80) with three of a kind, Eights
    Seat 7: FireDan didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Rutigar (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: jc544 (small blind) folded on the Flop
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    Why don't you think he's chasing? I put him on a diamond draw, ace worse kicker, maybe AK or something kooky like Q8 or a slow-played 88. If he's on the diamond draw or has AJ/AT (the most likely hands, imo) the push is terrible b/c you're getting called by better hands and folding worse hands. If he has something weird like AK/Q8/88, then the push is better b/c he might fold a better hand when the flush hits. BUT, given he's been calling and not raising, I'd assume he's a station and isn't folding anything but AJ or worse here.

    I like c/c river I think, maaaybe c/f to a push, but he has ~1/2 pot behind, so probably not.
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    I put him on: AJ or worse first, then Q8, then maybe QK. The call of the large turn bet made me think he wasn't chasing a flush or that he didn't have JT and was trying to fill an inside straight. The lack of a raise on the drawy board made me discount a set.

    I think my river push was bad because there isn't any way he could put me on really strong hands like a straight (he can't think I raise JT preflop) or a flush (what two diamond cards would I have open raised in EP that would have made the diamond draw possible for me?). My only hope was that he had one pair/two pair and was afraid of a set. He said in the chat that he was very afraid, but made the hero call anyway. He said that my lack of caring for the river told him two pair.
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    you get stacked here with Top two so nh.

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