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  1. #1

    Default Dealing with min 3-bets

    I've started playing regularly again, and I've been feeling very lost about where I am in a hand when I get min 3bet pre. These two hands are just examples. I'm not really looking for advice in these specific hands but how to handle these min 3bets in general. I've seen players do it with nut hands, but fish also do it with crap. Any help would be appreciate.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    UTG+1 ($17.50)
    MP1 ($63.10)
    Hero (MP2) ($85.90)
    CO ($18)
    Button ($50)
    SB ($17.75)
    BB ($46.25)
    UTG ($51.85)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, K
    3 folds, Hero bets $1.75, 3 folds, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.25

    Flop: ($6.25) 6, 4, 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($6.25) J (2 players)
    BB bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25

    River: ($14.75) 5 (2 players)
    BB bets $39 (All-In), Hero folds

    Total pot: $14.75 | Rake: $0.70

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    MP ($20)
    CO ($35)
    Button ($36.60)
    Hero (SB) ($50)
    BB ($25)
    UTG ($32.10)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q
    UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, 1 fold, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $5.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.50

    Flop: ($12.50) Q, 7, 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $12.50, Hero folds

    Total pot: $12.50 | Rake: $0.60
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  2. #2
    i'm folding both especially the first , it sounds like AA or something like that
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    I like both hands. Make notes about what they min3b if the hands go to showdown.
    I think it's pretty random, and the guys who do min3b are usually playing their hand face up on the flop. Just don't try to bluff them off underpairs on Axx boards.
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    I think you have to get the second hand in. He's only a half stack and if the hand has converted correctly there a 3 posters which could make him more likely to spaz. You definitely see TT/JJ sometimes here too.
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  5. #5
    1. Hand 1 is fine
    2. I fold preflop. Just realize that you can't call his min3Bet preflop and then not go all the way vs a half stack when you hit flops like this. As played c/shove is best.

    Also, make sure you pay close attention to what they're showing down when they min3bet and take notes
    Last edited by caddie444; 05-22-2010 at 03:33 AM.


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  6. #6
    h1 standard, played fine
    h2 i think we have to get it in here after calling pre vs half stack
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    I think calling pre us fine in hand 2 against an unknown. Flop bet sizing looks scary that's why I don't mind a fold. I would call or c/r but I think it's close.
    Last edited by oskar; 05-22-2010 at 03:22 PM.
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  8. #8
    i fold preflop with these offsuit broadway but call with sooted. Its terrible to fold in hand 2 once you got there with TPGK.
  9. #9
    thanks for the replies.
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  10. #10
    I find it very difficult to fold PF to these "Min-Raises" given the great odds that villain's providing.

    That being said, I also try hard to be really careful Post-Flop not to get caught up too badly in bad reverse implied odds situations, especially deep.

    Would think folding often to min-3 bets would be really exploitable (although a villain min-3betting probably doesn't pay enough attention lol).
    Last edited by Cougar; 05-25-2010 at 04:13 PM.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    in first i would actually take a stab at the flop and as played fold riv

    in 2 fold preflop FOR SURE as played sigh minraiseallin
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  12. #12
    1- Bet flop
    2- Fold PF

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