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    Be able to change the size of any object without affecting it's weight

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    Be able to change the weight of any object without affecting it's size?
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    Can I use it on myself? I want to shrink/grow like antman. Visions density power is dumb.
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    Hmmm... I'd like a twelve inch dick, but not one that floats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    Can I use it on myself? I want to shrink/grow like antman. Visions density power is dumb.
    Only women are objects.
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    EZ game. Change the weight without affecting size. I would gradually make myself heavier and heavier, training my muscles and bones so that I get crazy jacked then whenever I want, I'd reduce my weight to something silly light then BTFO everybody in tons of sporting events with my speed of insanity and become known as the greatest athlete of all time.

    Changing size with same weight just means that shit would get knocked over by a gust or wind or some shit.
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    I'll make my weed twice as heavy, sell half of it, and smoke the rest for free.

    Win.
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    I thought about gold, but the problem is that while you think you can now sell it for more, its density has changed and potential buyers will think it's not gold.
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    Changing weight is clearly the best if it's only objects. We're limited more by weight than anything else nowadays.

    Steel is great because of how strong it is compared to its weight. I'd just find a super strong metal, make it ligher than aluminium, and win.
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    Weight over size ofc. Anything sizeable needs weight or it's coming down like a house of cards.
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    Change weight without affecting size. Upsides of thick chicks with all the positions of skinny chicks.
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    Assuming all other structural properties are left unchanged, then being able to make something both strong and lightweight opens TONS of doors in engineering.

    Getting to space with a model rocket scaled up in size still isn't happening.
    Getting to space in a nearly massless Falcon Heavy is basically free.

    It's a clear victory for changing mass, while maintaining size (and other structural and mechanical functions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Hmmm... I'd like a twelve inch dick, but not one that floats.


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    I lol at the idea of getting into a boxing ring and secretly making your opponent's ankles gain 100 pounds. Unbeatable!
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    Make your own arms super lightweight, accelerate your fists to ludicrous speeds with your normal strength muscles. Just prior to or during impact, dramatically increase the mass of said, speedy fists.
    KE = (1/2)mv^2

    The energy in your moving fist scales linearly with its mass. So you speed it up by making it low mass, so it's easy to get high v^2 for your energy input. Then once it's going fast, cheat around the conservation of energy and make it massive. Getting hit by a truck hurts*, even if it's only moving "normal" fist speeds.

    *allegedly
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    Hold on here crazy scientist I ain't lookin' to murder a fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Make your own arms super lightweight, accelerate your fists to ludicrous speeds with your normal strength muscles. Just prior to or during impact, dramatically increase the mass of said, speedy fists.
    KE = (1/2)mv^2

    The energy in your moving fist scales linearly with its mass. So you speed it up by making it low mass, so it's easy to get high v^2 for your energy input. Then once it's going fast, cheat around the conservation of energy and make it massive. Getting hit by a truck hurts*, even if it's only moving "normal" fist speeds.

    *allegedly
    haha, this is awesome.
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    All this violence. I just want to make myself huge and light so I can make some wings and fly.

    And I want free weed.
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    ongies gonna ong
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Hold on here crazy scientist I ain't lookin' to murder a fool.
    Would you get banned from boxing for killing all of your opponents in the ring?
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    Almost certainly, I'd say. There would always be some batty motherfucker who would try to take the fight, but commissions would flat out stop sanctioning them.
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    Any boxer who keeps boxing after killing two people must be a psychopath.

    One, you accept it might happen in a career, but two, you gotta start to think you're hitting people a little too hard.
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    If ong can change his density at will, not only can he float, not quite flying w/o propulsion, he could take a punch like no other, by the same reasoning above.

    F = ma, and it's that acceleration which hurts. Increase the mass and the acceleration goes down.

    There's a classic physics demonstration where the lecturer picks a strong-looking student and gives him a big hammer. The lecturer lies down on the lecture bench and puts a heavy block on his chest. I've seen cinder blocks or small sections of railroad track used. The student can give the weight a solid wallop, and the lecturer wont feel much. Partially due to the force being spread out over a larger area, but mostly because the heavy mass doesn't accelerate much, so it shields the professor from the blow.

    EDIT: Gratuitous on my part, but another cool demonstration:
    I have a cannon ball with eye-loops welded onto opposite sides of it.
    I tie a thin string onto each loop, and hang it from one of the strings.
    Now.
    If I pull down on the free-hanging string with a gradually increasing force, I will break the top string.
    If I pull down on the free-hanging string with a sharp tug, I will break the bottom string.
    The first case, I'm kinda just increasing the weight of the whole thing, and the upper string supports both the mass and my added force, whereas the bottom string only supports my force.
    The second case, I tug quickly, and the acceleration of the mass is slight, so the force doesn't transfer through to the other string before I've torn the bottom string in half, and no longer applying any force.
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    MMM, you have such a fucking cool job.
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    Change the weight. I'ma walk away with your cars and put em on the roof!
    LOL OPERATIONS
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    Haha nice one bigred, way to piss everyone except me off.
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    I'ma make your weed weigh 5 billion pounds when I'm not around so you build a Bigred dependency.
    LOL OPERATIONS
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    If you make your THC weigh more does that really do anything bar fuck with how your body absorbs it? Sounds like it wouldn't give you any more high and if anything would just be more fucked.
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    New project:

    How would you use your power to take over the world?
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    I'd choose changing size of an object. I'd get in tight with one of the major parties and run for office. On election day, I would shrink to the size of atoms of some of the red blood cells of people in areas that vote for my opponent so that some of them are just too tired to vote. The marginal effect should be enough to put me over the top. Then I'd do it over and over a few times all the way up to POTUS. After gaining POTUS, I would shrink all other nations' weapons and most important oil/mineral reserves down to the size of atoms. I'd find the best spots to kill some of their leaders (like when they're visiting other countries) by exploding their heads by making many different parts of their heads rapidly expand while others do not. I would shrink their crops and expand their forest fires. I would then rally America for a grand Christian crusade to take over the world in order to save everybody from havoc. Any prominent leaders in America that spoke out against me would simply disappear, due to me shrinking them to atom size. I would begin performing miracles like physically going to the forest fires and raising my hands like Moses and instantly shrinking all the fire to atom size.

    I'd get to POTUS first because I'd need the Secret Service to keep me from getting killed. After that I could wreak havoc and begin my miracles. Eventually enough would follow me and other nations would be so decimated that we would create a one world government with me as the divine leader.

    Assuming I'm bloodlusted. I couldn't do it in character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    I'ma make your weed weigh 5 billion pounds when I'm not around so you build a Bigred dependency.
    You're really into the love-hate relationships, huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    If you make your THC weigh more does that really do anything bar fuck with how your body absorbs it? Sounds like it wouldn't give you any more high and if anything would just be more fucked.
    If the weed weighs 5 billion pounds, then what happens when you burn it? It the smoke ultra-dense, too?

    In b4 ong gives himself an aneurysm trying to clear a bong, then suffocates because the can't think to do a head-stand in order to exhale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I'd choose changing size of an object. I'd get in tight with one of the major parties and run for office. On election day, I would shrink to the size of atoms of some of the red blood cells of people in areas that vote for my opponent so that some of them are just too tired to vote. The marginal effect should be enough to put me over the top. Then I'd do it over and over a few times all the way up to POTUS. After gaining POTUS, I would shrink all other nations' weapons and most important oil/mineral reserves down to the size of atoms. I'd find the best spots to kill some of their leaders (like when they're visiting other countries) by exploding their heads by making many different parts of their heads rapidly expand while others do not. I would shrink their crops and expand their forest fires. I would then rally America for a grand Christian crusade to take over the world in order to save everybody from havoc. Any prominent leaders in America that spoke out against me would simply disappear, due to me shrinking them to atom size. I would begin performing miracles like physically going to the forest fires and raising my hands like Moses and instantly shrinking all the fire to atom size.

    I'd get to POTUS first because I'd need the Secret Service to keep me from getting killed. After that I could wreak havoc and begin my miracles. Eventually enough would follow me and other nations would be so decimated that we would create a one world government with me as the divine leader.

    Assuming I'm bloodlusted. I couldn't do it in character.
    Seemed in character until you forgot to abolish government at the end.

    In all seriousness to your question I probably wouldn't try and take over the world. I'd come up with some sort of scheme that resulted in me making some money, much less than you'd think if a person had the power to print money, and then I'd just chill. I think I'd enjoy living that fairly reclusive life as long as I had decent internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    You're really into the love-hate relationships, huh?


    If the weed weighs 5 billion pounds, then what happens when you burn it? It the smoke ultra-dense, too?

    In b4 ong gives himself an aneurysm trying to clear a bong, then suffocates because the can't think to do a head-stand in order to exhale.
    Could you even burn it? Why would the science governing what it does be remotely the same? Would lots of structures of particles and molecules not be messed with if you changed the weights of them but nothing else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Seemed in character until you forgot to abolish government at the end.
    I know I'll just shrink government to the size of a mol of hydrogen!

    Mols have volume right? I know moles have volume. Since a mol is just an e shy of mole, it's probably best to assume that a mol has volum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Could you even burn it?
    If it's the same stuff, but just with different density, that's already incomprehensible.

    I've made the assumption that the altered stuff is mechanically and chemically the same as it would have been if no super powers were applied.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Why would the science governing what it does be remotely the same?
    Science doesn't govern things. It's a method nerds use to call BS on each other.

    It wouldn't be the same. Atoms and molecules are indistinguishably identical to others of the same type. The notion that you could somehow take a molecule and increase its density and have it still be made of the same atoms and be the same molecule is, again, incomprehensible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Would lots of structures of particles and molecules not be messed with if you changed the weights of them but nothing else?
    Oh yeah. The mass of a particle plays a significant role in the energy of its bonding to other particles. If you go changing the mass of electrons or protons, then IDK what all the ramifications would be on chemistry, but it seems super important.

    Also, you could accidentally create loads of micro black holes if you go around willy nilly shrinking things to the size of atoms. Micro black holes evaporate quickly, so it'd be annihilation of that object into raw quantum information and a release of E = mc^2 of energy... like freebase entropy in nuclear bomb form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    If you make your THC weigh more does that really do anything bar fuck with how your body absorbs it? Sounds like it wouldn't give you any more high and if anything would just be more fucked.
    It's bought by weight. So, I buy it, then make it weigh more so I can sell half of it and break even while getting free weed.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred
    I'ma make your weed weigh 5 billion pounds when I'm not around so you build a Bigred dependency.
    Please don't do this. I'm not bothered about the bigred dependancy, I'm just a little concerned that if my weed weighs that much without a relative increase in size, it will be really difficult to move away from it. It might even collapse into a black hole. It will profoundly affect you too.

    Don't get carried away with these kind of powers, you'll fuck everything up for real. A million should cut it, without casuing too severe a distortion of spacetime.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
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    Be able to change the size of any object without affecting it's weight
    I would make my belly smaller. It doesn't have to weigh less, but just be smaller.

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