I am playing in a home cash game and the following scenario came up.
Skip to the turn. UTG checks, button bets and UTG calls. Both check on the river. Who has to show first?
12-06-2013 08:00 PM
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Who shows first?I am playing in a home cash game and the following scenario came up. | |
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12-06-2013 08:03 PM
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House rules vary. | |
12-06-2013 08:04 PM
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THE FUCK YOU DOING IN MY FORUM WITH POKER SHIT?!?! | |
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12-06-2013 08:11 PM
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She shows first. No exceptions. | |
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12-06-2013 08:50 PM
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Like MMM said, it depends on the rules of the house/establishment. | |
12-06-2013 08:57 PM
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the last thing i want to do is talk about poker because i still have a deep seething hatred for the US government, but if i were to ever encounter this scenario, i would furrow my eyebrows at anybody who makes a fuss about who shows first |
12-06-2013 09:00 PM
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Button shows, you douchebags. You want callers to be comfortable in calling because at least they get to see. | |
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12-06-2013 09:37 PM
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So who showed first? | |
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12-06-2013 09:50 PM
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Button, but she wanted UTG to show because she felt he should have shown first. | |
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12-06-2013 09:58 PM
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She shows first. No exceptions. | |
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12-06-2013 10:05 PM
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That's what I thought as well as another player. Dealer ( who lives here) thinks it is the other way because there was no action on the river. | |
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12-07-2013 12:03 AM
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Last aggressive action has to show first. No exceptions that I know of. | |
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12-07-2013 10:44 AM
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Horseshoe Cleveland is one exception I can think of off the top of my head. | |
12-07-2013 10:46 AM
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99% of the time I agree. It's usually a couple d-bags in a trivial hand where they should just table their freaking hands and get the game moving again. That is what I almost always do but every once in a while there comes up a situation where I think it's best to take advantage of the fact that one person has to show first (it usually has more to do with wanting to see what they have than wanting to not reveal what I have, but not always.) | |
12-07-2013 11:18 AM
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12-07-2013 11:52 AM
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The one who called has to show last is the rule we always use. So in this case, UTG called on the turn so button has to show first. However button can muck, then noone has to show and UTG just scoops the pot. I was talking to a friend about this yesterday. He said he once mucked a bluff in a big tournament, but regretted this. It's much more valuable to see what they're calling your bluffs with than to not show whatever bluff you ended up on the river with. | |
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12-08-2013 01:09 PM
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Last edited by chemist; 12-08-2013 at 01:14 PM. | |
12-09-2013 03:11 AM
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I always assumed whoever is to the dealers left shows first. |
Last edited by eberetta1; 12-09-2013 at 03:21 AM.
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12-09-2013 02:09 PM
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Harrahs/CET has gone back and forth with some weird rules, but they are now on board and I think everyone here in LV is using position if there is no action OTR. | |
12-09-2013 03:27 PM
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I think you're right, most casinos use that rule, but it's probably to make it easier for the dealer, just in case he forgets the exact order on a previous street. I still prefer "last aggressive action" whenever I can influence the rules (home games). | |
12-09-2013 03:38 PM
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In case everyone is all-in, it is still the last aggressive action that counts. If someone raised all-in for an amount that is less than the minimum legal raise, the player before him still has to show first. Example: utg bet 100, btn raise 200ai, bb 299ai, utg fold, then btn has to show first. | |
Last edited by oskar; 12-09-2013 at 05:37 PM.
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12-09-2013 03:39 PM
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you, you show me yours and i'll show you mine | |
12-09-2013 03:40 PM
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oh wait | |
12-09-2013 04:56 PM
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A lot of people call because they just have to see what their opponent has. I know, position is awesome blah blah blah, but trust me; it's better this way. Sure, the degens get more info this way, but it's information they overvalue and, thus, makes them leak chips. | |
12-09-2013 05:32 PM
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poker in the commune wtf | |
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12-09-2013 05:53 PM
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At the Borgata, the rule in cash games (and most games I have ever been in) is: last aggressor must show first. | |
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