Isn't it funny how it's only people served by coherence claiming coherence, despite all evidence to the contrary?
03-05-2018 12:40 PM
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Isn't it funny how it's only people served by coherence claiming coherence, despite all evidence to the contrary? | |
03-05-2018 12:46 PM
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Funny you mention this, 'cause yesterday you wrote a long analysis of that interview claiming it was coherent (at least I assume you did, I didn't read it). But now when it suits your argument, Bill was showing Trump up as incoherent in that interview. | |
03-05-2018 12:55 PM
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03-05-2018 01:02 PM
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03-05-2018 01:15 PM
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Are we talking about the same Bill? |
03-05-2018 01:38 PM
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Perhaps be a bit more clear on which Bill you're referring to genius, and maybe you won't be misunderstood. Another small lesson in coherence for you. | |
03-05-2018 01:42 PM
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03-05-2018 01:44 PM
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03-05-2018 01:44 PM
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Drain the Swamp means what, exactly? What concrete policies does this suggest? | |
03-05-2018 01:48 PM
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"Take away their guns first, then worry about due process" is a perfect example of that incoherence in policy that gets interpreted as trolling/3D chess by Trump apologists. | |
03-05-2018 01:49 PM
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03-05-2018 01:51 PM
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03-05-2018 01:55 PM
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Well I'm not a Trump-apologist, and I can't speak for them. But I have remained healthily agnostic about whether or not Trump is really playing 3D chess on this issue. It's totally plausible that he's smart enough to say something like that to be popular, while secretly relying on congress to never actually enact the policy. If you read any of my posts you know that I have reserved final judgement on this until I see how Trump acts in the event the Dems take congress. |
03-05-2018 02:04 PM
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03-05-2018 02:06 PM
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860 Obama-era business regulations have been removed since Trump's inauguration. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 03-05-2018 at 02:15 PM. | |
03-05-2018 02:09 PM
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Yup, and if you've read my comments in this thread, I've been shitting all over Trump for saying that. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 03-05-2018 at 02:12 PM. | |
03-05-2018 02:18 PM
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He's also said he's pro-life. That doesn't mean he really believes it. |
03-05-2018 02:23 PM
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a) sounds a bit retarded. Who is he trying to gain popularity with? All the people who hate his guts - like they're going to take that seriously as his position, forget everything he's said before (like a week ago about arming teachers) and think 'oh wow I had this Trump guy figured all wrong, he's actually anti-gun?' | |
03-05-2018 02:53 PM
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Probably the most intellectually lazy demographic there is.....undecided voters. |
03-05-2018 02:58 PM
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03-05-2018 03:15 PM
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I will concede that people care about it exponentially more than they care about Russian collusion. But that's really not saying much. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 03-05-2018 at 03:27 PM. | |
03-05-2018 04:09 PM
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Um yes? You mean he's changed to be much more coherent nowadays is that it? If anything, it just shows this has been noticed by many for a while, not just recently. | |
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03-05-2018 04:18 PM
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Gotta say this is one of my favorites. You really think the unemployed coal miners were hooraying Trump allowing offshore-drilling, and not ridding the government of cronyism, corporate special interests etc? Drain the swamp is quite a genious phrase in that everyone can freely decide what it means, no wonder Trump was initially so against using that. | |
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03-05-2018 04:30 PM
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03-05-2018 04:31 PM
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You didn't understand a word I said did you? | |
Last edited by CoccoBill; 03-05-2018 at 04:34 PM.
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03-05-2018 04:33 PM
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It means that he's had an unorthodox speaking style for his entire life. It only becomes a problem when it's politically convenient for the observer. |
03-05-2018 04:34 PM
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03-05-2018 04:42 PM
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So you agree he's had a speaking style that to many seems incoherent for a long time now. I guess this is closest to a concession from you I've seen. | |
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03-05-2018 04:44 PM
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03-05-2018 04:45 PM
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03-05-2018 04:58 PM
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03-05-2018 05:01 PM
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I said unorthodox. Not even close to a concession. |
03-05-2018 05:05 PM
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03-05-2018 05:17 PM
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03-05-2018 05:18 PM
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It says you should be wary about people who sees everyone with differing opinions as enemies. | |
Last edited by CoccoBill; 03-05-2018 at 05:50 PM.
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03-05-2018 05:25 PM
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Sort of, since I don't expect you to change your mind one iota no matter what information tries to enter your brain. Voting for someone implies assumed coherence of the electee's positions, not an actual understanding of them, and the electoral college has an even looser relation to any of that. You'd have a great career in law. | |
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03-05-2018 05:41 PM
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03-05-2018 05:46 PM
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bananalogic - Trump won the election, therefore he must be coherent. Never mind that he isn't, he must be because he won. | |
03-05-2018 05:47 PM
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Coherence really is subjective, isn't it? Perhaps those who find other people incoherent are the ones at fault. | |
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03-05-2018 05:48 PM
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03-05-2018 05:52 PM
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Looool. | |
03-05-2018 05:55 PM
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03-05-2018 05:56 PM
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Trump's policy is incoherent. | |
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03-05-2018 05:57 PM
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03-05-2018 05:58 PM
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03-05-2018 06:07 PM
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03-05-2018 06:11 PM
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03-05-2018 06:16 PM
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03-05-2018 06:18 PM
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03-05-2018 06:21 PM
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03-05-2018 06:27 PM
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No we've established you want to argue about what it means to be coherent by ignoring what is objective about the coherent expression of thought with language. There's a reason why there's books out there about how to write and speak and communicate clearly, and that they all offer the same advice. And none of them advise you to babble. | |
03-05-2018 06:45 PM
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03-05-2018 06:47 PM
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03-05-2018 06:50 PM
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03-05-2018 07:00 PM
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03-05-2018 07:02 PM
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03-05-2018 07:28 PM
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03-05-2018 07:28 PM
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03-05-2018 07:35 PM
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03-05-2018 07:35 PM
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03-05-2018 07:44 PM
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03-05-2018 08:19 PM
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At least four people on this forum have said that we understand him just fine, and some of us have said that we know/know of/have seen very large numbers of people who say they understand him. Also crowds of millions across the country love to hear him speak and many high traffic websites that publish in part based on understanding him. |
03-06-2018 04:03 AM
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What is Trump's policy on gun control? | |
03-06-2018 04:05 AM
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03-06-2018 05:53 AM
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03-06-2018 05:58 AM
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gun control - seems to me that he's trying to compromise in an effort to actually get things done. He wants stronger background checks. He wants armed protection at schools. He wants mentally ill people and cirminals to not be allowed guns. He wants consistency when it comes to age. He also wants to protect the 2nd Amendment for law abiding, sane citizens. Seems coherent to me. | |
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03-06-2018 06:13 AM
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Any body seeing this Nunberg guy on TV in the last day or so? |
Last edited by BananaStand; 03-06-2018 at 06:18 AM. | |
03-06-2018 10:54 AM
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You don't get to apply the constitution as you see fit. The 2nd amendment and due process also apply to crazy people - just ask banana I'm sure he knows all about it. | |
03-06-2018 11:02 AM
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Incorrect. If you have been adjudicated as mentally unstable, through due process, then the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to you anymore. |
03-06-2018 11:44 AM
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You just contradicted yourself. I said '2nd amend. AND due process' and you're like 'duh, no they have due process then they lose the 2nd amendment'. Good job there Karl Popper. | |
03-06-2018 11:50 AM
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03-06-2018 12:23 PM
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03-06-2018 01:14 PM
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03-06-2018 01:45 PM
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He's missing the part where you cannot be bothered by logic or sensibility, yet he keeps trying to speak to you using logic and sense. | |
03-06-2018 02:09 PM
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here's what i actually said: | |