have any of you guys been following this? how bad is this for online poker to have the owner of a top training site resign for cheating?
High Stakes Scandal: Nick Grudzien Admits to Cheating Poker Blogs
03-23-2010 08:01 PM
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stox pokerhave any of you guys been following this? how bad is this for online poker to have the owner of a top training site resign for cheating? | |
03-23-2010 08:02 PM
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Stox poker has run into a ton of shit over the last few months with leatherass leaving and another coach quitting as well. Not sure of the whole story but I think Stox is going down. | |
03-23-2010 08:18 PM
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There are a lot of low class scum bags in poker. There happens to also be a ton of low class scum bags in most industry's. | |
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03-23-2010 08:29 PM
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I don't think the general population is too aware of this scandal. | |
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03-23-2010 09:36 PM
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This plus another of their coaches scamming stox users out of tens of thousands of dollars through offsite deals. | |
03-23-2010 10:09 PM
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the poker community's PR is vastly vastly strong enough so that fish have no idea about any of this garbage. the worst effect i could possibly imagine is a lack of trust in the coaching community, but that can only be good for the upstanding members of that community like marshall and ISF and so forth. | |
03-23-2010 10:28 PM
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03-23-2010 10:53 PM
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03-23-2010 11:12 PM
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I've never heard of Stox Poker. | |
03-24-2010 01:39 AM
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I've never heard of BankItDrew. | |
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03-24-2010 02:11 AM
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Crime solving units need to hire 2p2 when they can't crack a case. | |
03-24-2010 02:40 AM
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Law and Order: BBV4L |
03-24-2010 11:51 PM
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03-25-2010 03:19 AM
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Stars is doing an investigation and haven't announced their findings yet. | |
03-25-2010 05:51 AM
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Just more ammo for the anti poker bigots, ripe and ready to be completely taken out of context and launched at random. | |
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03-25-2010 06:51 AM
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03-25-2010 04:32 PM
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srsly | |
03-25-2010 06:58 PM
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I looked at the 30k per day thread. Have you actually looked at the players and hands in question? They have spewed off stacks to other players, and the hands they lost to the right guy didn't look rigged either. One hand was 3 or even 4bet pre where the guy who was supposed to be donating had KK. If they were cheating it was very elaborate. | |
Last edited by oskar; 03-25-2010 at 07:01 PM. | |
03-25-2010 07:29 PM
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I read through it and it looked pretty obvious to me. two micro limit players (10nl and 25nl players) who were students of the guy with the two accounts who is a friend of the guy doing the prop bet suddenly show up at 200nl tables and blow their rolls stacking off really light against this guy.Its the most they ever lost and most of it went to the guy doing the propbet. |
03-25-2010 07:48 PM
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I read that too, but I think there's a good chance they just made that up. How many 25NL players get coached by 200Nl regs. Look the guys up on PTR - they are just drooling all over the place. - and they lost some substential pots against other players as well. | |
Last edited by oskar; 03-25-2010 at 07:56 PM. | |
03-25-2010 08:15 PM
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so sick for this to have occurred by a formerly highly respectable training site |
03-25-2010 10:42 PM
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03-26-2010 12:55 AM
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Tbh after reading that whole thread I am 100% convinced that he cheated in this bet by having his friends chip dump to him. | |
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03-31-2010 05:42 AM
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03-31-2010 05:44 AM
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Oh, and Sol Reader's apology: Two Plus Two Poker Forums - View Single Post - **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet*** | |
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03-31-2010 05:49 AM
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03-31-2010 10:06 AM
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Very interesting stuff, how is the founder of Stoxpoker involved in this? I don't understand the connection. | |
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03-31-2010 10:24 AM
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Poker is a game that has a history of attractracting scumbags. | |
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03-31-2010 01:44 PM
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03-31-2010 03:59 PM
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^^ Ok, thanks. What is the summary of the Stoxtrader scandal? | |
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03-31-2010 07:28 PM
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What a douchebag. He could have pulled off the easiest scam in the history of scams and he screws it up. | |
Last edited by oskar; 03-31-2010 at 07:31 PM. | |
04-11-2010 03:01 AM
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More drama hits StoxPoker: http://www.pokertableratings.com/doc...onAnalysis.pdf | |
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