05-27-2020 09:07 PM
#226
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Last edited by wufwugy; 05-27-2020 at 09:10 PM. | |
05-27-2020 09:25 PM
#227
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If your state isn't using bar-coded (or equivalent) ballots and attaching individual bar codes to each ballot and registered voter, then sure... maybe... | |
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05-28-2020 10:26 AM
#228
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"Obamagate, Obamagate!" | |
05-28-2020 11:35 AM
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05-28-2020 11:36 AM
#230
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05-28-2020 11:54 AM
#231
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https://www.kuow.org/stories/it-s-ea...shington-state | |
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05-28-2020 11:55 AM
#232
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05-28-2020 01:12 PM
#233
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I dunno about Obamagate, but mail voting should not be allowed for anyone able enough to walk. Lazy fuckers. Get to the polling station. I do it even when I'm not going to vote. | |
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05-28-2020 01:34 PM
#234
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You'd be amazed at how many people I know who have forged, altered, or intimidated during use of mail-in ballot. |
05-28-2020 01:46 PM
#235
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When kids move, parents sometimes still get the ballots and fill them out. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 05-28-2020 at 01:51 PM. | |
05-28-2020 02:14 PM
#236
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05-28-2020 02:17 PM
#237
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05-28-2020 02:35 PM
#238
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A) Based on what study / investigation? | |
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05-28-2020 02:42 PM
#239
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It depends on the employer whether you get time off to vote / can count time voting as on-the-clock. | |
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05-28-2020 02:51 PM
#240
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I can't prove any of it. Nobody can. Public evidence on the subject barely exists. |
05-28-2020 02:58 PM
#241
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I'm not arguing that you aren't telling me what you honestly feel, wuf. | |
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05-28-2020 03:12 PM
#242
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05-28-2020 04:39 PM
#243
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Well then, they need to force employers to let their staff vote, and they need reasonable access to polling stations. I'm sure there will be some isolated tiny villages, I guess they can be allowed to vote by mail. But the vast majority of people, there should be no need. It's crazy for the reasons wuf has stated. It calls into question the integrity of the entire process. | |
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05-28-2020 04:56 PM
#244
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They're putting in a lot of resources for the elections to be the way they are. Voter suppression is a feature to them, not a flaw. | |
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05-28-2020 04:58 PM
#245
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05-28-2020 05:27 PM
#246
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This. | |
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05-28-2020 08:22 PM
#247
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The integrity of our democracy dilutes as you get close to the top, but on local scales, it's pretty solid. | |
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05-29-2020 05:29 AM
#248
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"In the lead-up to the 2010 United States elections, the Republican party initiated a program called REDMAP, the Redistricting Majority Project, which recognized that the party in control of state legislatures would have the ability to set their congressional and legislative district maps based on the pending 2010 United States Census in manner to assure that party's control over the next ten years. The Republican took significant gains from the 2010 elections across several states, and by 2011 and 2012, some of the new district maps showed Republican advantage through perceived partisan gerrymandering. This set the stage for several legal challenges from voters and groups in the court system, including several heard at the Supreme Court level." | |
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05-29-2020 07:13 AM
#249
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Yeah I mean the US would definitely be above a banana republic in any Democracy Index. The elections aren't exactly "rigged". But there's a lot that seems to go on that isn't kosher. | |
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06-05-2020 10:22 PM
#250
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I love BLM. The core philosophy of protesting against rule by a power you don't have say in is dear to my heart. |
06-06-2020 12:45 AM
#251
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Assuming you're speaking from the heart, and not making bullshit excuses, Craig Benzine knocked it out of the park on this with his latest video. | |
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06-06-2020 12:58 AM
#252
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It's the extreme exclusion (the racist strategy) that I can't get behind. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 06-06-2020 at 01:03 AM. | |
06-06-2020 02:04 AM
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IDK what exclusion you're talking about. If some people have treated you poorly or excluded you, then those people were being jerks, and they don't represent the greater movement. Try not to fall into that trap of reflecting negative shit. We all fall into it from time to time, but it's not who we want to be. | |
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06-06-2020 03:45 AM
#254
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The only ones excluded from an anti-racism movement are, you know, racists. | |
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06-06-2020 04:27 AM
#255
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06-06-2020 06:32 AM
#256
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It's a bad meme war too. | |
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06-06-2020 09:46 AM
#257
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Are the memes bad, are are they necessarily ridiculous since what they depict is ridiculous? | |
06-06-2020 10:01 AM
#258
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They're bad analogies. | |
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06-06-2020 10:54 AM
#259
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06-06-2020 11:03 AM
#260
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Ok, replace "pretending" with "assuming". And jiggle the grammar so it makes sense. | |
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06-06-2020 11:22 AM
#261
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Well yeah sort of, but I think the word you're looking for is empathy. | |
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06-06-2020 11:43 AM
#262
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The principal of our college sent out a tweet the other day to say "All lives matter." The reaction was predictable. | |
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06-06-2020 11:48 AM
#263
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This is poor language to use. | |
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06-06-2020 12:10 PM
#264
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Empathy is overrated. It's an emotional reaction, and it's mentally draining. | |
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06-06-2020 12:26 PM
#265
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"it's mentally draining" | |
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06-06-2020 12:39 PM
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To elaborate, they're of course not, but nothing is stopping from feeling both. You're maybe being excessively cynical about this, most people are capable of empathy and they give a shit. I'm not a particularly emotional person as most here have probably guessed, but I get emotional watching those videos about Flynn, that bitch at central park and the various attacks against civilians in the riots. I can't even imagine what they feel like for black people living through that shit. I don't feel directly guilty for it, not even my ancestors have been part of any of that, but I do acknowledge I'm one lucky fuck for having been born at this place and to these parents. No, I haven't been handed any medals, handouts or stipends, but I've evaded most handicaps existing for humans. | |
Last edited by CoccoBill; 06-06-2020 at 01:51 PM.
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06-06-2020 12:49 PM
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Part of the problem is that people know racism is bad and they believe themselves to be a good person, so they conclude, "Therefore I am not racist, because bad people are racist, and I'm a good person." | |
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06-06-2020 01:21 PM
#268
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Sure, literally no one thinks they're racist, David Duke famously included. We have infinite sympathy and excuses for our own actions. The problem is most of the "evil" things happening in the world aren't because of malice, but selfishness and false assumptions. | |
06-06-2020 01:34 PM
#269
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The movement -- that goes back much further than BLM -- about freeing black communities from the legal power structure they never consented to is maybe the most libertarian movement I know of. And I love it. |
06-06-2020 01:58 PM
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If my spouse comes to me in obvious pain and asks “Do you love me?”, an answer of “I love everyone” would be truthful, but also hurtful and cruel in the moment. If a co-worker comes to me upset and says “My father just died,” a response of “Everyone’s parents die,” would be truthful, but hurtful and cruel in the moment. So when a friend speaks up in a time of obvious pain and hurt and says “Black lives matter,” a response of “All lives matter,” is truthful. But it’s hurtful and cruel in the moment. | |
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06-06-2020 02:17 PM
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06-06-2020 02:24 PM
#272
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I get angry watching videos too. Half an hour ago, I watched an Irish guy getting kicked in the head by black youths shouting about slavery. I got angry when I saw the old guy pushed over by cops and him lying there in a pool of blood. And of course the Floyd footage made me angry too. I'm not immune to emotional reactions to what I see. But grief? I don't think it's healthy to grieve for those you don't love, I mean idk how many people die every day but it's a lot. Why care about one guy but not the next? USA isn't the only shitshow in the world right now. | |
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06-06-2020 02:25 PM
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06-06-2020 02:28 PM
#274
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The phrase "all lives matter" is deliberately intended to trigger the left in the same way "Black live matter" triggers the right. The stupid thing is, most people agree that all lives, including black live, matter. Yet people are arguing with each other about slogans. | |
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06-06-2020 02:29 PM
#275
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06-06-2020 03:42 PM
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06-06-2020 04:30 PM
#277
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06-06-2020 04:36 PM
#278
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Assuming we're sticking with the race framing: |
06-06-2020 04:37 PM
#279
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I'd rather we not even use race framing in the first place. That just makes everything so much harder to solve. |
06-06-2020 04:48 PM
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06-06-2020 04:50 PM
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06-06-2020 05:02 PM
#282
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06-06-2020 05:09 PM
#283
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Maybe sneakers with bipartisan support? | |
06-06-2020 05:11 PM
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06-06-2020 05:29 PM
#285
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06-06-2020 05:30 PM
#286
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06-06-2020 07:05 PM
#287
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Oskar, you either completely missed by point, or you just made a joke in very poor taste. | |
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06-07-2020 03:43 AM
#288
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No, I got the point. | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-07-2020 at 03:46 AM.
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06-07-2020 05:54 AM
#289
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https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/stat...41648683487232 | |
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06-07-2020 07:10 AM
#290
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06-07-2020 07:38 AM
#291
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06-07-2020 07:44 AM
#292
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06-07-2020 07:57 AM
#293
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I agree, but a lot of things are literally impossible. It's also literally impossible for all the wealth in the country to exist in one person's hands. The idea is to find a place in-between those two extremes that is both possible and reasonable. You can start by taxing the rich. | |
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06-07-2020 09:25 AM
#294
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06-07-2020 10:24 AM
#295
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It's the word "grateful" that is misplaced here. Ending abuse is not an act of magnamity, it's fixing a wrong. There's nothing for them or me or you or we to be grateful for. Saying something isn't as bad as it used to be is downplaying the fact that it's bad now. | |
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06-07-2020 10:43 AM
#296
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I mean this is a matter of semantics. This is no different to me taking issue with the word "privilege". | |
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06-07-2020 11:05 AM
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06-07-2020 11:24 AM
#298
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But saying that downplays the progress we've made. | |
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06-07-2020 11:27 AM
#299
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06-07-2020 11:30 AM
#300
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Where do you get the idea that's what I'm saying? | |
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