04-27-2011 08:57 AM
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04-27-2011 09:01 AM
#227
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04-27-2011 09:09 AM
#228
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Yes, I am being deliberately obtuse at times, I guess I'm getting quite a lot of enjoyment out of this thread. But, it's not for you or I to determine what level of inequality we need to get to before we're discriminating. It's not about things we want, it's about what I can and can't do compared to someone of a different race. I want pure equality, which means I have exactly the same rights as a black person, and they have the same rights as me. I don't care what colour people's skin are, if I can't say a word because it is offensive, then it's offensive for anyone to use it. If using that word makes me racist, then a black person using the word is racist. | |
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04-27-2011 09:20 AM
#229
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OngBonga's not racist. He hates white people. | |
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04-27-2011 09:22 AM
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Boog, you might be a dick, but at least you're funny. | |
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04-27-2011 09:30 AM
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Since when did the majority need representation? | |
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04-27-2011 09:31 AM
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Had to be in this epic train wreck. |
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04-27-2011 09:38 AM
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04-27-2011 09:40 AM
#234
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Since the minorities started to get preferencial treatment. Majorities can be discriminated against too. | |
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04-27-2011 09:41 AM
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04-27-2011 09:49 AM
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04-27-2011 09:52 AM
#237
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And by creating equality, we lose equality. | |
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04-27-2011 09:58 AM
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Your example of the black police union - | |
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04-27-2011 10:02 AM
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Well, it's failing dismally. Equality will only exist when everyone is treated the same. Right now, we're not treated the same. | |
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04-27-2011 10:03 AM
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04-27-2011 10:03 AM
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04-27-2011 10:05 AM
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Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. A black person is likely going to have a different reaction to you using a slur than a black person using the same slur. I assume you're not a sociopath so this is just you being obtuse. Some sort of "familial agreement" is part of basic behavior in pretty much all mammals. The cunt example given above illustrates this. If I pinch my girlfriend's ass in public and she doesn't mind, that's OK. If you pinch my girlfriend's ass, it's not OK. | |
Last edited by baudib; 04-27-2011 at 10:07 AM.
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04-27-2011 10:08 AM
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And here in lies the problem. Why the different reaction? If the word is offensive, it's offensive for anyone to use it. If a black person says I can't say a word that his black friends can use, then he's the one being racist. I can't use the word because I'm white? Hello discrimination. | |
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04-27-2011 10:09 AM
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you need to lay off the weed | |
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04-27-2011 10:14 AM
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04-27-2011 10:21 AM
#246
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Neither. I'm just saying you're fundamentally wrong for some reason. | |
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04-27-2011 10:35 AM
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04-27-2011 10:41 AM
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04-27-2011 10:42 AM
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That's just a for instance. I know you have no woman that would go near you, so don't get all pointing out my mistakes and stuff. | |
04-27-2011 10:43 AM
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Waiting for an over-sensitive reaction... | |
04-27-2011 10:43 AM
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04-27-2011 10:43 AM
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YouTube - My President iz Black--Young Jeezy feat. Nas{Brand New} | |
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04-27-2011 10:46 AM
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04-27-2011 10:51 AM
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Apparently fat chicks give the best head because they're hungry | |
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04-27-2011 10:52 AM
#255
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fat chicks give better head because they have to. | |
04-27-2011 10:53 AM
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This thread has really educational, thank you everybody for the educational thread. I hope it can keep up being such a useful contribution to our community. <3 | |
04-27-2011 10:53 AM
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04-27-2011 11:00 AM
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Can we have some 'that's racist' goodness now? | |
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04-27-2011 11:05 AM
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04-27-2011 11:07 AM
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04-27-2011 11:25 AM
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04-27-2011 11:53 AM
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04-27-2011 12:00 PM
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OngBonga, why do you wanna be part of this Black Police Association thing so bad? it's not all spin the bottle and truth and dare; it's mostly treasury meetings and paperwork . . . they might serve coffee but that's about it | |
04-27-2011 12:03 PM
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on a more serious note, though, i assumed that they do, or at least can, have women police associations and disabled police associations and so forth. if they tried to form something like this and it was rejected because it included white people, then you'd have a point. | |
04-27-2011 12:07 PM
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You're missing the point. I don't want to be in their club. | |
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04-27-2011 12:10 PM
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Why can't they just have one organisation to deal with equality as a whole? | |
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04-27-2011 12:14 PM
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04-27-2011 12:21 PM
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see, but you're making the point for me here: | |
04-27-2011 12:24 PM
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Not personally. | |
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04-27-2011 12:32 PM
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surviva... | |
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04-27-2011 12:33 PM
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It's clearly hypocrisy at best and illegal at worst if they don't allow someone membership based on their race, sure. | |
04-27-2011 12:35 PM
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OngBonga, | |
04-27-2011 12:41 PM
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I think you're misinterpreting my position. My "well they're doing it too" argument is not an excuse to do it myself, it's an attempt to make people see that there is a great deal of hypocrisy when it comes to racism. I don't really care what they're doing or saying, so long as I have the same rights as them... I don't want more rights than anyone else, nor do I want any less. I want equality. Equality means we're all equal in the eyes of the law. That isn't the world I currently live in. | |
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04-27-2011 12:41 PM
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i already addressed this when i made the point about how you're a white, healthy, heterosexual male so you don't understand being offended by words or being discriminated against; this doesn't mean that people who DO get offended by certain things are stupid. | |
04-27-2011 12:43 PM
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04-27-2011 12:49 PM
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04-27-2011 12:50 PM
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04-27-2011 12:52 PM
#278
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pretty sure i don't wanna get into the semantics of the R-word and how it's way overused and, thus, loses it's resonance with people 'cause that would just be way to long and epically boring for people who don't care about rhetoric as much as i do | |
04-27-2011 12:53 PM
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It shouldn't matter whether I'm white, black, healthy or not. However, I do indeed know what it means to be discriminated against and called names, I had retard and spacker at school for years. It's not nice, but then it's not the worst thing that can happen. I'd rather be called a spastic than punched in the face. | |
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04-27-2011 12:56 PM
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04-27-2011 12:56 PM
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04-27-2011 12:59 PM
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what's this should or shouldn't matter crap? it DOES matter! you can't change that. if you have not discriminatable quality about you, then you're not going to understand discrimination [period] being called names in grade school is NOOOOOOOOOT the same. | |
04-27-2011 01:00 PM
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04-27-2011 01:04 PM
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I would imagine that pretty much every race in the world has well established slurs for us, and in many instances, these words will be so common that they don't appear offensive to them. That's how chinky is seen in this country, at least in my experience. I'm actually yet to meet someone who has found the term genuinely offensive. | |
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04-27-2011 01:10 PM
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So kids at your school called you a retard? Do you actually have down syndrome? That would explain a lot actually. | |
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04-27-2011 01:11 PM
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Surviva, you're going off on a tangent now. You told me I didn't know what I meant to be discriminated against and called names, I told you that wasn't true, and now you tell me it doesn't matter anyway. After telling me it does matter. | |
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04-27-2011 01:11 PM
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04-27-2011 01:14 PM
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You should create an organization for autistic people...and then let people that don't have autism (or have any kind of relationship with anybody that has autism) into the organization. | |
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04-27-2011 01:14 PM
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04-27-2011 01:19 PM
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so ongbonga your claim is since you got over it thus everyone else should just get over it as well? | |
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04-27-2011 01:20 PM
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04-27-2011 01:21 PM
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04-27-2011 01:23 PM
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Well good then. Free game on calling you a retard. | |
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04-27-2011 01:35 PM
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04-27-2011 02:03 PM
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FYI, reading up on the controversies surrounding the NPBA is hilarious. It seems the NPBA came under criticism primarily for urging minorities not to join London's Metropolitan police force because of ...<drumroll> ... "racially hostile environment." Most of the Times' (Murdoch paper, if you didn't know) stuff is bashing the minority officers for publicly criticizing the Met force. | |
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04-27-2011 02:10 PM
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YouTube - Bizarre Foods - Raw Meat in Ethiopia | |
Last edited by Jack Sawyer; 04-27-2011 at 02:16 PM.
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04-27-2011 02:14 PM
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Ong, I'm pretty sure that someone smarter than I could use game theory to show that on an equal playing field with X players where Y is a majority and Q, Z, and K are all minorities, Y will come to dominate Q, Z, and K. Even if the bonds between members of all subsets of X are not particularly strong, collusion is sure to take place, and the majority will have an easier time successfully colluding. | |
04-27-2011 02:25 PM
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Meh people all over the world eat raw stuff, be it fish or meat. Europeans with their steak tartare, Japanese sashimi (also horse sashimi), and so on. Don't see raw meat per se as being "bizarre". Although the way it's presented there, it's pretty damn brutal! I definitely had some resistance to eating with my hands in that way, but somehow it makes the whole eating experience a LOT more carnal, if you know what I mean. Like you're supposed to have a wild orgy after the meal. | |
04-27-2011 02:46 PM
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This is probably the strongest argument against my position I've read in this thread. All I can say in response is that I don't see these groups themselves as the problem, they are just part of the problem. They do not succeed in bringing equality to the table, despite their intentions, they just further reinforce intolerance because they are exclusive. | |
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04-27-2011 02:58 PM
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I hate how sensitive people are these days. I can't even wack off in the park anymore without some prudish mother-type calling the cops on me. | |