So, as a side note of the crap happening here...how's it going to affect the websites that deal with online poker. Will the loss of the US players hurt those websites in the long term?
04-17-2011 12:07 AM
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Side effect of banning of poker(is obviously FTR turning on each other)So, as a side note of the crap happening here...how's it going to affect the websites that deal with online poker. Will the loss of the US players hurt those websites in the long term? |
Last edited by jyms; 04-23-2011 at 04:13 PM. Reason: for fun
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04-17-2011 01:59 AM
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04-17-2011 08:53 AM
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It will obviously hurt the poker rooms as there are less players, meaning less rake. Before this shit hit the fan, Stars were rolling in around $1.5m a day. Americans don't even make up the bulk of Stars' traffic, that honour goes to Europe, so I imagine they're still raking in over $1m a day. That's still a very viable business. | |
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04-17-2011 12:50 PM
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04-17-2011 01:45 PM
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I wasn't talking about the poker rooms...I am talking about the side businesses that are associated with online poker...Forums, books, rakeback sites, ect. |
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04-17-2011 01:53 PM
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04-17-2011 02:52 PM
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I think on the bright side the commune will stay alive. I don't think any of us play poker anyway. Just replace the poker site ads with porn site ads. Ez game. | |
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04-17-2011 03:01 PM
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FlopTitsRiver? | |
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04-17-2011 03:17 PM
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comparing an entire continent vs. country imo. semi apples to oranges. this is going to be fairly catastrophic to some sites no matter what the outcome because of this. there's been a shitload of estimates thrown around of what % of the poker stars market that americans comprise but numbers between 25-40 percent have been quite common. | |
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04-17-2011 05:58 PM
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04-17-2011 06:02 PM
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04-17-2011 10:49 PM
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Last two Pokerstars Sunday millions: | |
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04-18-2011 08:21 AM
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Pfft, I'm just regurgitating stuff I read, I can't be bothered to trawl through the countless articles I've read since this shit hit the fan, most of it is probably shit. dthorne04 made a good point though, I'm comparing a country to a continent, it should come as no surprise that the population of an entire continent makes up more of the traffic that a single large country. I can't remember where I got those numbers from relating to stars' profits either, clearly it's misinformation. If they're making more than what I read, then it makes continued business even more viable, it would be insane to walk away from a multi-million-dollar-a-day business just because they've lost like 25% or whatever of their market. From the perspective of someone outside of America, this whole episode should be of no direct concern. | |
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04-18-2011 01:02 PM
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04-18-2011 01:19 PM
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04-18-2011 05:49 PM
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Its just a matter of time before the USA regulates online poker for Americans...Of course they want to tax it and get their cut because the government needs more money..The Feds want there hands in everything,Auto insursance,health care, etc.. |
04-18-2011 09:23 PM
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halo/black ops games gonna get tougher | |
04-19-2011 10:35 AM
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04-19-2011 11:06 AM
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Yea I just confiscated my PS3 back from my friend after basically letting him own it for the last 9 months. Now just waiting on Skyrim to come out... | |
04-19-2011 11:06 AM
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Portal 2 came out mofo. Get it! | |
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04-19-2011 12:57 PM
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You know what's really fucked up? Last night I was playing poker with a Chineseman and a Vietnamese. | |
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04-19-2011 01:20 PM
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04-19-2011 10:30 PM
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MW2...we're playing games of skill aren't we? |
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04-20-2011 09:33 AM
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Haha this reputation thing is awesome, someone negged me because I said "Chineseman"... like seriously, is something wrong with that term? Should I use simply "Chinese"? Or "Chinaman"? All three get widely used in the UK, I don't know about other countries. For fuck's sake people, what's wrong with you all? I'm gonna start negging people for inappropriate use of apostrophes. | |
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04-20-2011 09:54 AM
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04-20-2011 10:03 AM
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I don't mind the neg for whining. That one is fair. | |
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04-20-2011 10:54 AM
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04-20-2011 11:00 AM
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04-20-2011 11:30 AM
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04-20-2011 12:35 PM
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Let's play a game... | |
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04-20-2011 02:03 PM
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04-20-2011 02:07 PM
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04-21-2011 04:30 AM
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Hear The GrasshopperYeh, but that's the beauty of the English language, innit? | |
04-21-2011 06:26 AM
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Chinaman is fine to describe a man from China (if a little outdated). It is where the bowling term comes from ldo. | |
Last edited by WillburForce; 04-21-2011 at 06:28 AM.
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04-21-2011 07:27 AM
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Perfectly acceptable, as in "Your Chinaman is generally good at maths but not very well endowed, basically the opposite of your mahogany specimen." | |
04-21-2011 07:29 AM
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The beauty of the English language indeed. The irony is, of course, I actually haven't got a clue which term is correct for someone from China. And I'm fucking English, and I always paid attention at school. | |
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04-21-2011 07:30 AM
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Just call them Orientals and piss the whole lot of them off. | |
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04-21-2011 07:34 AM
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Orientals. I don't think that is offensive in this country. We tend to use that word to describe the good Asians, ie the ones from China and Japan. | |
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04-21-2011 08:06 AM
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I had a dentist who was a chinaman. I asked "Can I get an appointment?". | |
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04-21-2011 08:32 AM
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what the bloody hell happened to this thread | |
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04-21-2011 12:06 PM
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Do chinks get dizzy when spun? | |
04-21-2011 03:01 PM
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It's really funny how the same term can cause varying degrees of offense depending on where it is uttered. Calling an Asian person "Oriental" is like calling a black person "Colored." At least that is the case in the US. | |
04-21-2011 03:06 PM
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What is an Asian? Does it include people from say India? | |
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04-21-2011 03:23 PM
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Technically, yes, as that is part of Asia. However, no, it is never used like that. There isn't really a non-offensive word that groups people from that region. Like Most of the mid-east is in Asia (I say most since Egypt, etc, are often considered part of the mid-east) but people from there are called "Middle Eastern", not "Asian." For countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, etc, there isn't really a term to call those people aside from "Indian, Pakistani, etc" respectively. | |
04-21-2011 03:25 PM
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Actually, the same goes for the former Soviet countries in Asia, like Uzbekistan. | |
04-21-2011 03:47 PM
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Is it offensive to say here is my friend from the Asiatic region of the globe? | |
04-21-2011 05:24 PM
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I'm not sure you have the right to take that title away from them. We need more asians on here to give an opinion (asians being Pakistani/Indian etc as opposed to chiese or Korean etc) | |
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04-21-2011 05:32 PM
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Apparently, they don't consider themselves of or from the Orient. They may tend to feel better titles should be used. | |
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04-21-2011 05:35 PM
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I am just being a bit contrariwise, but I was sternly corrected on the point recently and it stuck with me. "They don't like to be called Orientals." | |
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04-21-2011 05:36 PM
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It's quite pathetic how people get offended over how we describe each other. I mean seriously, we (meaning society as a whole, not just FTRers) should as a group come up with acceptable terms to use for descibing everyone, in terms of ethnicity, height, weight, hair colour, baldness and everything else. Otherwise, how am I supposed to narrow down my porn search results? | |
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04-21-2011 05:37 PM
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Oriental is an old school way of calling them Asians. The only time I hear that word now is from my grandparents. I would say that it is slightly offensive here in Vancouver. | |
04-21-2011 08:03 PM
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I think it is completely unfair for you to call people's sensitivities "pathetic" when you yourself are not subjected to the same sensitivities. The offense comes from the fact that the initial grouping was done by oppressive or elitist cultures to categorize cultures they dominated and/or felt superior to. For example, "negro" doesn't really carry any negative meaning as a word, except that it was implemented as a way to describe black people by their oppressors. | |
04-21-2011 08:16 PM
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04-22-2011 02:49 AM
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Well boost, being an asian (I think) in a society that panders to the needs of everyone's littlest sensitivity it's no surprise you're overly sympathetic. | |
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04-22-2011 08:38 AM
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04-22-2011 09:13 AM
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Do you find it hard to keep up with the latest fashion trends? What about trends in popular media or politics? Or is it just references to races that leave you bewildered? |
04-22-2011 09:16 AM
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Meh, as somebody of Japanese descent I don't really care about the word "oriental" too much. It strikes me as a bit vague and dated, like "coloured", and smells of ignorance, and yet it's not enough to make me mad. | |
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04-22-2011 11:12 AM
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My friend used to date a Chinese girl and whenever we played monopoly if she landed on Oriental avenue he would always snicker, point at her, and say "Oriental". That seemed to piss her off. Not sure if it was because of the use of the term or just because he was a jackass. | |
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04-22-2011 11:47 AM
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haha clicking around on the web led me here: | |
04-22-2011 11:49 AM
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Oriental Avenue? You must be playing some weird version. | |
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04-22-2011 11:50 AM
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My friend has that Ghettopoly, it caused a shitstorm over here when it was released and was promptly banned. My friend refuses to play it because it's worth money. | |
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04-22-2011 04:19 PM
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04-22-2011 04:53 PM
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04-22-2011 07:33 PM
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04-22-2011 07:35 PM
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04-22-2011 09:11 PM
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I'm a Neo-Nazi super racist, what can I say | |
04-22-2011 09:18 PM
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Basically the point I'm making is people need to not be so sensitive over things that aren't obviously derogatory when they are said. Like if I called someone who is obviously Asian, an Asian or Oriental, am I being racist? No. If I called an Asian a gook, chink, slant-eyes, w/e, that's obviously me being a racist dick. Yet some people of that race (or not even of that race) will get all bent out of shape about it. | |
04-22-2011 09:19 PM
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04-22-2011 11:03 PM
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cliffnotes for those who don't feel like reading a wall of text: | |
04-23-2011 01:13 AM
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I am not Asian. And I think you are way off the mark, but I don't blame you because progress creates a sort of illusion of time. Society, in general, has progressed from being extremely insensitive, to being less insensitive. Since the status quo is at all times a state of insensitivity, then when there is progress it appears that everyone is being overly sympathetic. | |
04-23-2011 01:31 AM
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04-23-2011 02:30 AM
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Your offensive range is too wide, you should merge it with your insensative range. Much more EV that way. | |
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04-23-2011 02:33 AM
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04-23-2011 02:35 AM
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04-23-2011 02:37 AM
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