Should people spank their kids?

[kingnat]

Do you have kids?

I want to hear from people not with 2 yr olds or 8 yr olds, I want to hear from the people with kids in their late teens, their early 20's that didn't spank at least once. I don't want to hear a philosophical argument, I want real life results.

I don't want philosophy dammit, I want anecdotes. Old-fashioned, completely un-biased, self-reported anecdotes.

[kingnat]

The things is, there's a lot of variance child to child, even from the same parents, and there's a lot of know-it-all parents who project their experience onto others, when that may benefit from different approaches tailored to their unique situation. Generalizations are tough to come up with for child-rearing.

I completely agree. I thought I hedged my previous comments sufficiently but still think most of the general tenets are fairly broadly applicable. There are massively conflating issues as well, that makes the generalities seem to not apply. I don't think it's too far of a stretch that most parents don't have much of a clue about what effective parenting looks like, or even something some key ideas that they might try to use wiht their kids, and so they obviously fail fairly hard. They are wildly inconsistent, and select poor substitutes to actual strict discipline like threats, hitting, spanking, and yelling.

But even for those parents that do have some idea, or even strong ideas about effective ways to parent... failure is easy because holy shit is it fucking hard. Kids can be such assholes, you're always tired, you don't get time to yourself, on and on. Their difficulties are always changes, and it's hard as shit to be patient, especially when you rarely get laid anymore because, ldo kids.

Anywho... i had more to say, but now i forget what it was and irl, etc.

[bikes]

fwiw some of my most vivid memories of early childhood are getting hit or parents screaming at each other.

[kiwiMark]

my first memory's trying to find the tv.

[Sasquach991]

The majority of experts on raising kids are childless

[d0zer]

The majority of experts on raising kids are childless

[citation needed]

[kingnat]

FUCK CITATIONS. WE NEED REAL LIFE RESULTS. CLEARLY SASQUATCH991 HAS THEM.