Robb v. Daven fitness prop bets

[daven]

1. Weight < 180 lbs (BMI ~20)
2. Run 1:45 half marathon
3. Climb 5.11

We'll see if Jerry can stir up some workout concoction that helps with that.

i figure he'll get you running and doing weights

1 will help immensely with 2 & 3.

re running a 1:45, you'll need to mix endurance and speed. Sounds as though your runs are huge on endurance. Doing occasional 5km flat course speed work will do wonders for your cadence.

re climbing 5.11. Best way to climb harder is to climb more. More easily said than done with family and work commitments I'm guessing. But, there are a bunch of other things that you can fit easily into an everyday, like five minutes. Put one of those doorframe chin-up bars somewhere in your house - search e-bay for HOME GYM CHIN PULL-UP EXERCISE FITNESS BAR FOR DOORWAY or something, they ship at about $20. Ideally a door you walk through often. Do 1 or 2 chin-ups every time you pass it by. This gets someone from being able to do one jump-assisted chin-up to being able to do 5 in about a couple of weeks. Once you can do 10/if you already can, there are a whole bunch of other set-of-one exercises you can do using the bar and a sling. Or stick it in your office doorway if your school is cool with that. Also, those grip strength things that consist of a coil and two arms at about 40degrees. Grab one of these. Do sets until you can do 100 - cool thing about this is that the muscles involve respond incredibly quickly. Once you can do a set of 100 each hand, get another one with greater resistance. Repeat. Also, if the eventual squeaking from these gadgets gets to you, try holding a small coin (nickel?) edge on between the two bars for as long as you can. Feel the burn.

I've been working on a get better at climbing kick based on the UIAA grading system they use here. I decided a number a month sounded good. It is proving to be ridiculously optimistic...

[daven]

21/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
22/8 - 1xswim
23/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
24/8 - 1xjuggling, 1xclimbing
25/8 - 1xrunning
26/8 - swimming, running, juggling
27/8 - juggling, climbing
28/8 - climbing

i was planning to run after a 3hr climbing session yesterday, but no way. I was trying hard on routes that will let me tick my number for August + starting out on a September project or two and now my body is completely baked.

edit
29/8 running, nothing much else except for 10k hands of da fiddy ennellllles
30/8 swimming, juggling
31/8 swimming, running

it's 7pm. I still have time for a juggling session to make it 20.... but it's looking unlikely!

[daven]

so I made 22/25.

Keen to do something similar for September?

[Robb]

so I made 22/25.

Keen to do something similar for September?

I shipped my $9 for two missed gym sessions and a run. I also got sick for a few days, so I'm just now feeling better. I will get to some goals for September.

This month will be weird. I'm working with Jerry starting next Wednesday afternoon, plus some kids and faculty here are talking about an indoor soccer pickup game on Tues/Thurs, and I got invited last night to play volleyball and water polo with some of the military cadre, so I've gotta figure out how to set goals when everything's up in the air. The up side is this: there's no shortage of ways for me to get off my lazy ass and get some exercise!!

I'll try to sort it and post something by Saturday-ish.

[Robb]

Well, I MEANT to do this last Saturday. WTFever. I ran twice, one BEAST, and worked out with Jerry. So I've been training this month.

Jerry's knowledge about training athletes and targeting muscle groups with specific exercises is f**kin' amazing. After two of his workouts and a couple runs, I can really tell how helpful the strengthening and flexibility stuff he's got me working on is going to be long term. And I'm already running with less knee pain.

Here's my list of goals for the rest of September, which I'm willing to wager $50 on completing.

1. Two long runs 10+ miles.
2. Long run 7.5 miles.
3. 5 BEASTS or equivalent. *
4. 7 of Jerry's workouts.

Just to make the math easy, I think I'll go with $3 per Jerry / BEAST ($36 total), $5 each for the 10 milers and $4 for the 7.5 "off week" long run.

I will also admit that I may have walk a bit on my runs. Jerry has me doing some serious leg work that is strengthening all the support muscles around my ankles, knees and hips, the muscles that tend to get stressed at the fatigue point of hard runs. For the next 2 - 3 weeks, I'm going to have to ease off slightly while running to avoid chance of injury.

I'll try not to wuss out, just ease in about 100 meters of walking every 20 - 25 minutes of running.

We're also trying to get a weekly co-ed indoor soccer game together at school with some faculty and students. If it works out (I'll know Tuesday after I see who shows up to the first one), then we'll say that a soccer game can replace one of the $3 workouts since I may have to "lighten up" my other workouts or risk injury.

Sorry for the delay - I've just got a lot of different fitness stuff I'm trying to do.

So...the ball is back in the juggler's court.

[daven]

and the juggler drops the ball, possibly because he's finally starting work on 6-ball and that is likely to take him another year to even come close to achieving...

One comment on your end of things - soccer game can also replace a run. Like, it's more similar to running than a gym session. Choose which feels better for your body/suits you better at end of month tally time.

i just realised that you shipped me $9, but iou $3. Arithmetic, probably not a strong point for either of us maths fails.

As for a trainer having amazing knowledge about training, ldo Ask him about ITB, and he'll most likely say that's nothing to do with what's going on in your legs - but just in case. The reason i suggest this is that I got a pretty solid dose of ITB early 2008, but if I'd identified it earlier I could have prevented it rather than wasting time fixing it post facto.

Stretching = the absolute business. Add ten minutes of this at the end of each run and you'll be sorted in no time. I'm looking forward to finally be living in the same city as my favourite yoga instructor come November..

I've been a little less active this month - excuse is the bike commute to/from german classes. The reality is that I'm lazy. And the rest of the month is a little complicated as I'm planning to be travelling around germany a bit. But, that's no reason not to do some exercise. I've never been a great swimmer, but getting better. A week ago I swam 1km with no pause for the first time in my life. I'm kinda aiming for a 3km pool session sometime, but that will involve a few 15second breaks I'm guessing. First up is 2km.

There are 18 days left in september.
I'm going to add a couple of things to the list from last month to make it more travel friendly.

Swim = 1.2km+ or it doesn't count
climb = session at the local/or a crag
run = 5km++++
juggle = harder to quantify, but I can see the difference between a training session and spending ten minutes throwing some balls around. This could include some seriously long sessions if I end up in Berlin.
stretch/yoga = 1hr+, my hamstrings are feeling tight after all the riding I'm doing, plus I can't do the splits and I should be able to (new goal for 2009)

2 a day, 36, call it $1.50. If i make it then I can cancel the iou from last month.

[daven]

this just got a lot harder. How unco does someone have to be to dislocate their little finger while running?!?
anyway, i'm pretty sure there's no fracture, but juggling is going to be limited, climbing is a no go, maybe swimming if i splint the finger? guess i'll be doing a bunch of running and stretching.

here's hoping that it's just inflammation and that it will be all better in a day or two.

[daven]

money on it's way dude, $24.

[Robb]

Resurrecting the old thread. I'm putting up $50 which will really hurt the roll which in early December's downswing reached as low as $160. Need some serious motivation.

January is all about getting back into shape. I probably couldn't run 2 whole miles without stopping. I'm doing run/walks, walking breaks at work and using the MyFitnessPal app on my iPhone.

Run/Walks

I'm doing 3-milers. I decided that I'm sick of running 12 minute pace, which isn't really running. But due to health reasons I haven't run much at all in a year. So I'm running about half, sometimes only a third, on a 3 mile course. Still, with the running parts below 8 minute pace, my overall time for 3 miles is about 43 minutes, or around 14 minute pace even though I'm walking mostly and running only 100 - 200 meters bursts at the faster pace. Found out that I have a lot less pain in my knees, too, this way. Still, my legs are pretty dead after run/walks Thursday and yesterday.

Walk Breaks at Work

There's a central pedestrian loop on our campus that is .6 miles, about 200 meters from our building. In 15 minutes, I can get up off my a$$, clear my head and just walk around enjoying the campus scenery. So each break is a mile. And every mile you move burns about 100 calories. It's also great for me in terms of work - I think best pacing around, so I can do myself some favors in a long work day by just taking a walk and refreshing the brain cells. Also, if I get behind on the 3-milers, I will let 4 walk breaks = 1 3-miler to catch up at month's end, 4 miles to 3, just to keep me moving.

MyFitnessPal

If you've seen this app or website, you enter your food which counts up the calorie intake. You enter your exercise and it adds in calories burned. A joy to use when you're doing well, but hard to face the bad news on fat, slothful days. If I use that think EVERY day, I will lose weight. I'm at 222 lbs, when I should be less than 190. I'm not setting a weight loss goal, just a goal to use the Pal EVERY day in January. No substitutions - it's a $1 a day every day I miss.

Prop Bet

$31 - MyFitPal every day ($1/day missed)
$10 - Run the 3-miler 12 more times in January ($1 per miss up to $10 max)
$9 - 15 Walk Breaks ($1 per miss up to $9 max)

I'm not very good at math, but I think that tots up to $50. Gotta go find that FitPal app before lunch...

[daven]

i'll come up with my stuff shortly - it won't involve an i-phone app, but will involve a bunch of exercise

[Robb]

i'll come up with my stuff shortly - it won't involve an i-phone app, but will involve a bunch of exercise

fitness leveled

Run/walk +1

[kmind]

Good luck again guys. Myfitnesspal is awesome and very helpful when I was in shape.

[daven]

so, i need to be active this month. I want to climb something moderately hard in March and i'm about 5kg above fighting weight for that. I also want to be super fit, right now i'm not. I'm also in pretty appalling running condition - i went for a run with a friend of mine (he of 1hr 12min half marathon styling) a few days ago and he laughed at me. Like, it's always been that his runs with me are his recovery/rest runs, but this was ridiculous...

what counts:
tramping (hiking in N. American parlance)
climbing
riding (>10km so simply riding between my gf's place and my place doesn't count)
running
swimming (as in pool session, decent distance)
surfing

so, i'll just add up what i've done after 31 days, i ship you $1 for every unit below 50. clear? like mud? good.

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing

so i'm behind pace

[kingnat]

I've never liked fitnesspal type things.. because if you cook carrots with olive oil ro something.. how do you account for all that stuff? The programs never really take all those things into account.

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing session at a local quarry - where i got a very physical lesson on an old school barely a slab 5.11d where i was having to yard far harder than appropriate on a half-pad mono just to get into the crux.... rock beats scissors/daven

[kmind]

I've never liked fitnesspal type things.. because if you cook carrots with olive oil ro something.. how do you account for all that stuff? The programs never really take all those things into account.

Yeah it does. You just search olive oil and guess the amount and all of that stuff. I was VERY specific when I used it. Just search the other ingrediants and add them on top if it's generic.

[ZwiFT]

what the faak happend to ya dave

[Robb]

@king and kmind, myfitpal allows you to create recipes you use a lot, so on the fam favs I am pretty specific like kmind says. If you're traveling, many of the menu items at chain restaurants are there, too. You can pretty much be as specific as you want. Some with fitness.

For me, using the fitpal is just keeping my honest with myself about how much I'm overeating. Face the guilt. Accuracy is less important than just thinking about everything I'm stuffing down the cake hole.

Finally, I went for a run/walk this morning, and about froze the nads off. I ran a LOT more than usual early, and paid later. And I didn't warm all the way back up until about 3 PM. But I went out and got in a 3-miler. Yay, me. That's 3 run/walks in four days. I'm planning to take a couple days off while in New Orleans.

That's me, ready to gamble it up Thursday evening at Harrah's New Orleans.

[daven]

what the faak happend to ya dave

?

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running

way behind pace now....

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running, climbing
6/1/11 = running
7/1/11 = climbing

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running, climbing
6/1/11 = running
7/1/11 = climbing
8/1/11 = hiking
9/1/11 = running

Just got back from two days away, need to ramp it up. Running a half in a few months..

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running, climbing
6/1/11 = running
7/1/11 = climbing
8/1/11 = hiking
9/1/11 = running
10/1/11 = running, climbing

[CBAT]

11/1/11 = LIFTING?

You ever lift weights dave?

EDIT: 666 post

[Robb]

lol lifting

I should have run Sat/Sun after getting back from New Orleans. We have about 8 inches of snow, and live in the southern sticks. It'll be about 5 days before running is possible on the main route. I'll have to see if I can get somewhere in a couple of days to go running.

I'll be behind - way behind on this bet soon. But I've got a friend whose running a marathon who'll be visiting in early April, and she needs to get in a 12-miler while she's here. I think I'll plan to go running with her, try to make that run the goal for getting back in shape.

[daven]

I should have run Sat/Sun after getting back from New Orleans. We have about 8 inches of snow, and live in the southern sticks. It'll be about 5 days before running is possible on the main route. I'll have to see if I can get somewhere in a couple of days to go running.

I'll be behind - way behind on this bet soon. But I've got a friend whose running a marathon who'll be visiting in early April, and she needs to get in a 12-miler while she's here. I think I'll plan to go running with her, try to make that run the goal for getting back in shape.

happy for you to substitute in a core workout (dips/sit-ups/pressups/etc - enough that your abs feel worked! you can judge that one) or exercycle or rowing machine or whatever workout if you want - any of these are great for getting fit and inside = snow isn't a problem.

[Robb]

happy for you to substitute in a core workout (dips/sit-ups/pressups/etc - enough that your abs feel worked! you can judge that one) or exercycle or rowing machine or whatever workout if you want - any of these are great for getting fit and inside = snow isn't a problem.

I'm substituting 1 hr of shoveling snow for 2 walk breaks =) .

Thanks for break, I'm pretty sure I can get it all in. I'll just have to be on top things the end of the month.

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running, climbing
6/1/11 = running
7/1/11 = climbing
8/1/11 = hiking
9/1/11 = running
10/1/11 = running, climbing
11/1/11 = cycling, climbing

[daven]

12/1/11 - 6k hands powered by caffeine then beer, 8.5ptBB/100, forgot to eat, no exercise

[Robb]

12/1/11 - 6k hands powered by caffeine then beer, 8.5ptBB/100, forgot to eat, no exercise

lol - the good life

I did another hour of shoveling snow yesterday, and lots of playing the Wii with the kids. Today, we're planning on driving over to school for some gentle sledding hills. We have hills at our house, but they're steep with abrupt endings. I think I can get a run in this afternoon, though I will probably have to trudge through some snow on a couple of spots.

[Robb]

Spent 75 minutes sledding with the kids yesterday - their first time out. The hills around the house are epic grim, really steep with abrupt endings. So we headed over to North Georgia (the university where I work) for some great hills, starting out gentle and working up to some really good runs.

Sprained my ankle - very slight, thankfully - on the last run of the day. I let my 4-year-old steer. We veered off route into a drainage grate, and the bank on the back side stopped our progress instantly, my right foot and ankle taking the brunt. Aaron went catapulting over the bank that stopped us, doing the superman on his stomach for about 8 feet across the flat part of the finish. He jumped up with this huge smile on his face, so best run of the day, I say.

Injury could have gone either way after tightening up and swelling a bit last night. This morning, though, it's loosening up and very little pain. So it's all good. Didn't try running yesterday, though. I'll take another walk break off, for trudging up and down hills through the snow helping kids sled. We found some college kids sledding, and they helped me out, giving a hand to the kids hauling the sled up, taking pictures and so on. So not too much work for me.

I have managed to use some muscles I don't usually work out though, and I'm mildly sore pretty much everywhere. Time to go back to work =)

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running, climbing
6/1/11 = running
7/1/11 = climbing
8/1/11 = hiking
9/1/11 = running
10/1/11 = running, climbing
11/1/11 = cycling, climbing
12/1/11 = nada
13/1/11 = climb
14/1/11 = run, climb, ride

just clicked that this is going to be tougher than anticipated cos i'm about to head up to my old city to hang out and booze for a week. I'll pack my running shoes

[daven]

I let my 4-year-old steer. We veered off route into a drainage grate, and the bank on the back side stopped our progress instantly. Aaron went catapulting over the bank that stopped us, doing the superman on his stomach for about 8 feet across the flat part of the finish. He jumped up with this huge smile on his face, so best run of the day, I say.

loving it!

Injury could have gone either way after tightening up and swelling a bit last night. This morning, though, it's loosening up and very little pain. So it's all good.

I have managed to use some muscles I don't usually work out though, and I'm mildly sore pretty much everywhere.

always gotta recommend voltaren gel and arnica tablets for soft tissue complaints = dollar each way on science vs hippie!

[Robb]

dollar each way on science vs hippie!

++EV

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running, climbing
6/1/11 = running
7/1/11 = climbing
8/1/11 = hiking
9/1/11 = running
10/1/11 = running, climbing
11/1/11 = cycling, climbing
12/1/11 = nada
13/1/11 = climb
14/1/11 = run, climb, ride
15/1/11 = ride
16/1/11 = run, climb

i'm noticing that i'm far more likely to get stuff done on this list if i get out for a run before 10am...

[Robb]

3-miler today, but ankle had shooting pains down toward heel for first dozen steps - went away and loosened up, but probably good I got lazy and didn't try a 3-miler three days ago - roads still icy in several places, too

[Robb]

3-miler again today, no pain in ankle, e.g. it didn't hurt any worse than other parts did - proud I ran in the rain

+1 walk break at work

[daven]

so far:
1/1/11 = hiking
2/1/11 = hiking
3/1/11 = climbing
4/1/11 = climbing
5/1/11 = running, climbing
6/1/11 = running
7/1/11 = climbing
8/1/11 = hiking
9/1/11 = running
10/1/11 = running, climbing
11/1/11 = cycling, climbing
12/1/11 = nada
13/1/11 = climb
14/1/11 = run, climb, ride
15/1/11 = ride, hike (4hrs walking with a pack on up and down a hill, figure that counts)
16/1/11 = run, climb
ok, gotta do this from memory cos i forgot to update
17th & 18th i did 1xrun and 1xclimb, not sure which day was which though
21st i went running
22nd i hiked (2hrs carrying a heavy 2yo in a backpack)
26th i climbed at castle hill
27th i climbed indoors

there. up-to-date. And well behind pace. 28/50, 4 days to go. Wonder how close i can get?!
if we'd added # sessions of >5 standard drinks i'd be about finished already

[Robb]

I owe $14.

I completed all walk breaks.

I'm -6 on 3-milers.

I'm -8 using MyFitPal.

I also haven't played poker in two weeks - life's crazy busy, but fun. Just got promoted to Full Professor a year early.

I lost two pounds last month, 1 pound each week I used MyFitPal, one week I was running one week I wasn't.