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  1. #23251
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'll have you know our national dish is actually roast beef. Ask the French. They find it most amusing to call us "rosbief", even though it's delicious, unlike frog's legs.
    Do they? We were taught in school that French for roast beef is 'roti de boeuf'. Though tbf, it was the screwy Quebecois version of French we were being taught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Moreover, the overwhelming responsibility for the incident must without question lay with the airline
    I think someone put some crack in your poutine

    Overbooking flights is a common and accepted practice. Buying people off of the plane has proven to be an overwhelmingly successful solution to the problem. It works almost every time. When it doesn't work, some cops show up and ask someone to leave. The vast vast vast vast majority of people see a badge, and a gun, and fucking obey.

    There are 25,000 flights every single day! Just in America! This is one of probably a handful of times this has ever happened. Based on historical statistics, the odds of this happening are several hundred kajillion to one.

    Or in poker terms, you have 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000694 outs.

    I'm not saying that they're blameless, but do you really think anyone at United ever expected something like this to happen?

    for not having a proper policy in place for dealing with just such a contingency without resorting to physical force.
    What more of a policy should they have had? Seriously? The only viable thing that I think United could have done in this situation is to offer more than $800 to buy someone off the plane. If it were $8,000 then somebody might have gotten up.

    But once you set that precedent, people will just hold out for huge sums every time a flight is overbooked. I'm not sure that's an improvement over the current model where someone gets stubborn once every kabillion flights.

    The overwhelming responsibility for this incident must without question lie with law enforcement.

    This man was committing no crime. The cops had no right to move him. This guy's stubbornness meant that United couldn't transport one of its' flight crew members to another city to work another flight. That means that flight is delayed, and it has ripple effects throughout United's entire schedule.

    All of that sucks for a lot of people, but none of it is a crime. It's an operational challenge experienced by a private company. Companies have operations problems all the fucking time. Most of them don't get to call in thugs when the cost of fixing that problem exceeds the $800 budget that they allotted to fix it.

    The cops should have said "well, we tried, but he's not moving". After that United can either offer more money, cancel the flight, delay other flights, find alternate transport for its crew, or call in another crew member who's on their day off. That's what every other company in the world does. United should never have had any expectation of physical intervention from law enforcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    The fact that multiple people filmed the goonery on the plane and at least one of those people went to the trouble to post their film on the internet suggests not all the passengers were 'complicit' in the incident. Also several of them can be heard protesting in the video.
    I don't agree with this definition of complicit.

    People saying they are against something, but still patronizing the business which does the thing is hypocrisy. None of their protests can be taken seriously when they continue to patronize United.

    The notion that they only hurt themselves by leaving the plane and forfeiting their money is laughable. It's more like the only way they don't hurt themselves is to stand up for what they believe in, which in this case means the forfeiture of some money. The elevation of $$ above your own moral code is an expression of your moral code, in itself.
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    I wonder if the guy wasn't technically trespassing at that point.
    Just because I invite you into my house, that doesn't mean that I am not free to change my mind and later revoke my welcome.
    I wonder, because there is a conceivable scenario where the guy is technically breaking the law and the police are authorized to arrest the individual.

    Still... I find myself agreeing with Mr. Stand that use of force in this case was a step too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Do they? We were taught in school that French for roast beef is 'roti de boeuf'. Though tbf, it was the screwy Quebecois version of French we were being taught.
    I mispelled. Rosbif. I think it's them saying it (vaguely) how we say it, taking the piss, rather than a literal translation of "roast beef". Note if you put "rosbif" into google translate, it comes up as French for "roast beef", but then switch back to French and it's rôti de bœuf.
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    I hate that the victim is such a little bitch and gets all the attention for it. If you comply and leave you have a snowballs chance in hell to win a court case. This guy has half the lawyers in the state trying to get this case on contingency. What kind of a grown man makes a noise like that? That's right: a little bitch. Fuck that guy, fuck the airline and fuck the cop. I don't feel like taking anyone's side here.
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  7. #23257
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I wonder, because there is a conceivable scenario where the guy is technically breaking the law and the police are authorized to arrest the individual.
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/1...apolitano-says

    I disagree with the judge when he says he has a right to be there. I'm sure the 'contract' involved in purchasing the ticket contains some fine print that says they can boot you for overbooking. So I don't agree with the Judge's point that United has to fulfill a contract with the man.

    However, I do agree, that even if the man IS breaking the law, it's a civil complaint (breach of contract), not a criminal one. Which means the police do not have the authority to use violence.
  8. #23258
    I wouldn't be surprised if refusing to leave an aircraft when ordered to by the captain is indeed a criminal offence. Certainly there are plenty of harsh laws in place relating to aircraft, people give up a lot of rights when they board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I don't agree with this definition of complicit.

    People saying they are against something, but still patronizing the business which does the thing is hypocrisy. None of their protests can be taken seriously when they continue to patronize United.

    The notion that they only hurt themselves by leaving the plane and forfeiting their money is laughable. It's more like the only way they don't hurt themselves is to stand up for what they believe in, which in this case means the forfeiture of some money. The elevation of $$ above your own moral code is an expression of your moral code, in itself.

    They'd already patronized the business when they bought the ticket to get on the flight. They couldn't then un-patronize it by not taking the flight since the airline already had their money. All they would be doing is throwing their own money away and causing themselves inconvenience. At best, they could refuse to patronize the same airline again, which I'm sure a number of them will do.

    Saying you have to cause yourself an immediate inconvenience and financial loss that would give no immediate benefit to MrI'maDoctor in order not to be complicit in his mistreatment is silly. You might as well say they should have jumped the cops to avoid being complicit. They protested (or at least a number of them did), they filmed the incident, and some of them posted it online. What more do you expect?

    What you're saying is akin to saying that if you go to MacD's and buy a burger, then witness them being rude to a customer, you're complicit in their rudeness by eating the burger, and instead you should throw it in the garbage. Your moral obligation there is not to hurt yourself, but to take steps to ensure the behavior does not recur.
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    I listened to Leonard French's breakdown. If you have 30 min. it's mildly interesting. Overbooking does not apply because the flight was not overbooked. It's more about the police using force to settle a civil dispute.
    No matter who's technically in the right, for the airline this is all about stopping a derailed train from running into their PR dumpster fire more than winning the case if it goes to court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Note if you put "rosbif" into google translate, it comes up as French for "roast beef"
    probably because so many English twats like you are typing 'rosbif' into google translate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    probably because so many English twats like you are typing 'rosbif' into google translate.
    I wish that's how google translate worked, because "sheepshagger" would return "Welshman".
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  13. #23263
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    ... the victim is such a little bitch.

    hehe, I kinda thought that to myself a bit while i was watching. I mean who screams like a little girl while he's getting roughed up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I wish that's how google translate worked, because "sheepshagger" would return "Welshman".
    In Wales it probably does.

    Actually makes me wonder if google translate takes into account your location (e.g., England vs. the US) when translating. Like if you put in the French word for 'sidewalk', does it return 'pavement' in England but 'sidewalk' in the US?

    The first time sometime told me to walk down the "pavement" in England to get to some place I'd asked directions for, I was wondering why there were telling me to walk on the road with the traffic, and not on the sidewalk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I wonder if the guy wasn't technically trespassing at that point.
    Just because I invite you into my house, that doesn't mean that I am not free to change my mind and later revoke my welcome.
    Not the same thing. He wasn't an invited guest present only at the pleasure of the airline.

    The airline, by accepting his money, has a contractual obligation to provide the service.

    A more apt analogy would be if you had a contractual agreement to rent a room in your house. Then after your tenant moved in, you decided that you needed the extra room for your vintage back issues of TV Guide

    That guy is NOT trespassing. And if you call the cops, they won't touch the guy. They probably won't even ask him to leave. They'll probably just wish you luck in court and then go.

    The other piece of this, is I'm sure the fine print of your ticket purchase includes an agreement to submit to overbooking inconveniences. So it's breach of contract vs breach of contract. An issue for a court to decide. File your motions and may justice prevail.

    Wait, what? You can't wait for a court to decide? You need the plane to leave now? That's why they say "possession is 9/10ths of the law". Work around it United


    Interesting epilogue: Just heard that the guy wasn't exactly the greatest doctor. Lost his license for over-prescribing. Not sure that's relevant at all. Reports have said that the man was being belligerent to the officers. Though I conjure up slightly different images when I think of a belligerent doctor and a belligerent drug dealer.
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    What makes me pessimistic is that my sister who's working in image recognition with neural networks is the most sober person I know when it comes to AI revolution. She doesn't even believe in truly autonomous cars withing the next decade.

    The real test of a creative and adaptive AI will be Deepmind taking on Starcraft. I'm not that wowed by AI's doing well in poker and GO. These games aren't exactly easy to break down but they're nowhere close in the pattern recognition world compared to SC and SC2 is still miles away from the real world.
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    Making games where the AI is not a complete pushover seems like one of the better implications of ASI.
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    I'm genuinely curious about something... a Muslim woman in USA is facing potentially life in prison for performing religously motivated female genital mutilation. Why isn't there such a fuss when it comes to male genital mutilation? Honestly, if I had no foreskin because it got cut off when I was a kid, I'd be fucking furious for my entire adult life.

    I really don't understand how on the one hand it's (legally speaking) as bad as murder to cut a woman's clit off, but on the other it's perfectly acceptable to chop a man's foreskin off.

    Both are equally as fucking horrible to me. USA has a ridiculously high rate of circumcised men. Seems hypocritical as fuck to me.
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    Not trying to downplay the horribleness of male circumcisions, but it's a tad different IMO whether a piece of skin or functional part of a sexual organ is chopped off. A more fitting analogy would be if they snipped off the tip of your dick.
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    ya, it's obviously not the same thing...
  25. #23275
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    ya, it's obviously not the same thing...
    It's still fucked, just a completely different level of fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Not trying to downplay the horribleness of male circumcisions, but it's a tad different IMO whether a piece of skin or functional part of a sexual organ is chopped off. A more fitting analogy would be if they snipped off the tip of your dick.
    I would argue the foreskin is a functional part of the sexual organ. A freind of mine used to fuck this American dickhead, we called him Yank (yeah, imaginative). She says he hated blow jobs. Who the fuck hates blow jobs? That is a direct consequence of him having the snip. It impacts on his sexual pleasure, so yes, it's a functional part of the sexual organ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I would argue the foreskin is a functional part of the sexual organ. A freind of mine used to fuck this American dickhead, we called him Yank (yeah, imaginative). She says he hated blow jobs. Who the fuck hates blow jobs? That is a direct consequence of him having the snip. It impacts on his sexual pleasure, so yes, it's a functional part of the sexual organ.
    I'm circumcised and I love blowjobs, so your n=1 correlation doesn't generalise. Moreover, I can orgasm. Most women without a clitoris cannot.

    While I agree it is better to be natural than circumscribed, circumcision is hardly on the level of removing the clitoris. Like coco said, losing the clitoris is more like having the tip of your dick cut off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    It's still fucked, just a completely different level of fucked.
    Why?

    Honestly I can't imagine walking around with an extra bit of skin just flapping around down there. Seems like it would be dirty.

    Also, I dare you to take a poll right now and see which version women prefer. Hide your scissors first though. You might get crazy ideas
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    A freind of mine used to fuck this American dickhead, we called him Yank (yeah, imaginative). She says he hated blow jobs.
    Maybe she's just bad at it. Or maybe yank is gay.

    You should have had her give you a blowjob so she would have an objective third opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Why?

    Honestly I can't imagine walking around with an extra bit of skin just flapping around down there. Seems like it would be dirty.

    Also, I dare you to take a poll right now and see which version women prefer. Hide your scissors first though. You might get crazy ideas
    I have no problem with people choosing to get circumcised. Your body your choices. I have a problem with people choosing to mutilate their children.

    Also you'll find that women tend to not really give a shit & that preference will fluctuate on what is considered normal for what they'll have seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    I have no problem with people choosing to get circumcised. Your body your choices. I have a problem with people choosing to mutilate their children.
    Are you saying that circumcision should be a choice made by men in adulthood? Because that's kah-razy with a capital K.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Also you'll find that women tend to not really give a shit & that preference will fluctuate on what is considered normal for what they'll have seen.
    Pretty dubious for you to be speaking for women. I'm sure whatever you've heard was told to you so that you wouldn't feel bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Are you saying that circumcision should be a choice made by men in adulthood? Because that's kah-razy with a capital K.

    Pretty dubious for you to be speaking for women. I'm sure whatever you've heard was told to you so that you wouldn't feel bad.
    For approximately the third time, yes my opinion is you shouldn't be cutting bits of children off.

    It's funny how much yanks get worked up about this type of thing.
  33. #23283
    Quote Originally Posted by poop
    I'm circumcised and I love blowjobs, so your n=1 correlation doesn't generalise
    Fair enough, but n=2 doesn't really correlate either. Banana, do you like blow jobs?

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    Maybe she's just bad at it.
    hahaha this made me laugh. Apparently, she's very good at it, she was quite the slut a decade or so ago, the things she's said to me have almost made me cum. I would like to find out just how good she is, however she's my best friend and she doesn't remain friends with people she has romantic involvement with. So sadly I'd have to say my friendship means more than an orgasm, even if it was the best orgasm I ever had. Also, she isn't interested in me like that anyway, I'd know by now.

    Savy nails my problem with this. We're not talking about adults making choices. We're talking about butchering kids. Why is it crazy to say it shouldn't happen to children?

    You say "extra bit of skin flapping about"... it's not flapping about, it wraps itself snugly around the dick, protecting it from friction. And no it doesn't get dirty, assuming you wash it at least.

    It's mutilation. What's the point? The health benefits are debateable, so much so that no health association will go as far as recommending it as standard.

    I still don't see much difference. I suppose the removal of the clit is purely to oppress women, control their sexuality, I get the motive is different. However, both are genital mutilation, both (usually) happen against the will of the person involved (because they are children). So no, I can't get consider it acceptable to remove a boy's foreskin, just like it's unacceptable to remove a girl's clit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    For approximately the third time, yes my opinion is you shouldn't be cutting bits of children off.

    It's funny how much yanks get worked up about this type of thing.
    I brought it up because of the hypocrisy. Yanks are funny about it because it's so culturally ingrained in them. I get that. But it's strange that they are so against female genital mutilation while accepting male genital mutilation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    For approximately the third time, yes my opinion is you shouldn't be cutting bits of children off
    Why? If I understand your objection correctly, we also shouldn't be giving kids haircuts, clipping their fingernails, or removing wisdom teeth. Yet we do all of those things simply for aesthetic and 'ease of maintenance' reasons.

    The risk of infections and complications is monumentally reduced when the snipping is done to infants as opposed to adolescents or adults. The cost, recovery time, risks, and level of discomfort are all significantly less when the procedure is performed on an infant.

    I'm not saying we should go around snipping 8 year olds. But 8 day olds....fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Banana, do you like blow jobs?
    Is that a proposition? If so, then NO! If it's just a general question, then YES!

    Apparently, she's very good at it, she was quite the slut a decade or so ago,
    No, if she was good at it, someone would lock that down. She wouldn't be a slut. Also, I'm not buying the 'more experience = better quality' argument. In my experience, quality is all about size and shape of a mouth, and the lack of a gag reflex. If you were long enough, you'd know this.

    the things she's said to me have almost made me cum.
    Those were probably tests to see how you'd react. You failed.

    I would like to find out just how good she is
    Sounds like you could have.

    however she's my best friend and she doesn't remain friends with people she has romantic involvement with.
    In what universe is a blowjob the same as 'romantic involvement'?

    Savy nails my problem with this. We're not talking about adults making choices. We're talking about butchering kids. Why is it crazy to say it shouldn't happen to children?
    Because 'butchering' is a completely nonsensical term to use in this case. It's a minor, and extremely simple procedure, with minimal complications that makes care and maintenance significantly easier for the people who are responsible for that task for the next decade or so.

    You say "extra bit of skin flapping about"... it's not flapping about, it wraps itself snugly around the dick, protecting it from friction. And no it doesn't get dirty, assuming you wash it at least.
    Schmegma is thing. I wouldn't know much about it though, 'cause my dick is awesome.

    It's mutilation
    Jealous!

    What's the point?
    Awesomeness

    The health benefits are debateable
    No they aren't. It's actually basic math. Less surface area means less dirt and filth. It means there are less places than an infection could occur. These things are not debateable.

    Also, if you consider a robust sex-life to be a 'health benefit' then snipping is the way to go. Like I said, take a poll and ask women what they prefer.

    so much so that no health association will go as far as recommending it as standard.
    So anything non-standard must be bad?

    I still don't see much difference
    Really? Try this experiment then. Find an uncircumcised buddy. Have him got get his foreskin removed surgically. You stick the tip of your dick into the bottom of a blender and then turn it on. Then compare dicks, and see if you still don't see much difference.
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    I think it's hilariously hypocritical that a nation as religious as the US feels God sorta messed up the dick and it needs fixing.


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    No, if she was good at it, someone would lock that down.
    You really couldn't be any funnier when talking about my friend.

    Many men have tried, and failed, to lock that down. She's definitely fucked over 100 men. Probably only ten in the last decade, she's slowing down.

    Also, I'm not buying the 'more experience = better quality' argument.
    Agreed. I refer you back to my comment about how the things she's said to me have almost made me cum. That was me being crass more than anything, but yeah the things she's told me... she knows what she's doing.

    Sounds like you could have.
    No. She's not shy. She also doesn't take rejection very well at all, so if I accidentally blew her out without realising, I'd definitely know about that. Also, I wouldn't still be friends with her. She's complicated, which is why I've never tried it on with her.

    In what universe is a blowjob the same as 'romantic involvement'?
    Sexual eoncounter, whatever. It's a phrase, it wasn't meant to mean "married" or "in a loving relationship".

    Because 'butchering' is a completely nonsensical term to use in this case. It's a minor, and extremely simple procedure, with minimal complications that makes care and maintenance significantly easier for the people who are responsible for that task for the next decade or so.
    Right, so you had your foreskin snipped so your parents could wash your little cock? How come my parents didn't have a problem washing mine?

    Schmegma is thing. I wouldn't know much about it though, 'cause my dick is awesome.
    Yes it's a thing, and that's why people with foreskins tend to wash their dicks.

    Jealous!
    So much so I'm sitting here with scissors and codeine, daring myself to do it.

    No they aren't. It's actually basic math. Less surface area means less dirt and filth. It means there are less places than an infection could occur. These things are not debateable.
    lol surface area. Remove your skin then. If you haven't got any skin, it can't get dirty, right? It's debateable because the health benefits you speak of can be entirely negated by washing.

    Also, if you consider a robust sex-life to be a 'health benefit' then snipping is the way to go. Like I said, take a poll and ask women what they prefer.
    I've got my sample size of one, I have my facts. My friend's ex hated blow jobs and for him, sex was an act of dominance, not love.

    Really? Try this experiment then. Find an uncircumcised buddy. Have him got get his foreskin removed surgically. You stick the tip of your dick into the bottom of a blender and then turn it on. Then compare dicks, and see if you still don't see much difference.
    Right. Now find a cirumcised girl. Then take another girl, and stick her clit in a blender. Compare the two? Do they look alike? I have no idea, I've never seen either a circumcised clit, nor one that's been through a blender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You really couldn't be any funnier when talking about my friend.
    Glad you're entertained

    Many men have tried, and failed, to lock that down. She's definitely fucked over 100 men. Probably only ten in the last decade, she's slowing down.
    Doubtful. I don't care how good the BJ is, I'm not marrying someone in the century club.

    Agreed. I refer you back to my comment about how the things she's said to me have almost made me cum. That was me being crass more than anything, but yeah the things she's told me... she knows what she's doing.
    Again, it's not a matter of 'knowing what you're doing'. Either she has a good mouth or she doesn't. The fact that she talks about "skills" suggest that her mouth is shitty.

    No. She's not shy. She also doesn't take rejection very well at all, so if I accidentally blew her out without realising, I'd definitely know about that. Also, I wouldn't still be friends with her. She's complicated, which is why I've never tried it on with her.
    Yeah, ok, you're content in the friend zone. lol, nice try. Sounds like she's really easy, not complicated. You should have tried.

    Sexual eoncounter, whatever. It's a phrase, it wasn't meant to mean "married" or "in a loving relationship".
    So...she can't stand to be around people she's gotten busy with? Too much shame huh? That is actually kinda hot.

    Right, so you had your foreskin snipped so your parents could wash your little cock? How come my parents didn't have a problem washing mine?
    Little? It was too big, that's why they cut some off. Sounds like you have the opposite problem.

    Yes it's a thing, and that's why people with foreskins tend to wash their dicks.
    So unless you shower before a blowjob, every time, you're going to repulse some women. Once again, please take that poll and let me know the results.

    So much so I'm sitting here with scissors and codeine, daring myself to do it.
    I think this was an episode of 'Nip/Tuck'.

    lol surface area. Remove your skin then. If you haven't got any skin, it can't get dirty, right? It's debateable because the health benefits you speak of can be entirely negated by washing.
    So...make washing easier.

    I've got my sample size of one, I have my facts. My friend's ex hated blow jobs and for him, sex was an act of dominance, not love
    LOL, it's like that for everybody. You need to get laid more. Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power.

    Right. Now find a cirumcised girl. Then take another girl, and stick her clit in a blender. Compare the two? Do they look alike?
    Probably. See the problem now?
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    Yeah, ok, you're content in the friend zone. lol, nice try. Sounds like she's really easy, not complicated. You should have tried.
    You're right about me being content friend zoned. That decision was made a long time ago. But no, she's not easy, and I shouldn't have tried. Had I tried, I'd have either failed or succeeded (probably failed), and we wouldn't be friends today.

    Either she has a good mouth or she doesn't.
    Good mouth, and hands, and arse.

    So...she can't stand to be around people she's gotten busy with? Too much shame huh? That is actually kinda hot.
    I dunno about shame, but it's something.

    Little? It was too big, that's why they cut some off. Sounds like you have the opposite problem.
    I definitely had a little dick when my parents were washing it for me. Fair play to you if you didn't.

    So unless you shower before a blowjob, every time, you're going to repulse some women. Once again, please take that poll and let me know the results.
    I've yet to repulse a woman with my smelly cock. To be fair, I haven't had any action for a good while now, but I still keep my cock clean.

    So...make washing easier.
    Shave your hair off then. Health benefits.

    You need to get laid more.
    True.

    Sex is about power.
    False. It might be for you, but certainly not for me.

    Probably. See the problem now?
    No, because "probably" is hardly proof, on the contrary it shows that you've never seen a circumcised clit either, so you're guessing, just like me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Why? If I understand your objection correctly, we also shouldn't be giving kids haircuts, clipping their fingernails, or removing wisdom teeth. Yet we do all of those things simply for aesthetic and 'ease of maintenance' reasons.
    Fingernails grows back
    Hair grows back
    Wisdom teeth don't get removed for aesthetic or ease of maintenance

    The fact you think it's ok to cut bits of children off for aesthetic reasons based on your own imaginary claim that women like them more that way is pretty funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    I think it's hilariously hypocritical that a nation as religious as the US feels God sorta messed up the dick and it needs fixing.
    God made us in his image then clearly had a mishap and needed to make an adjustment. Great way to test humans faith in him too rather than, you know fixing it himself.
  44. #23294
    The fact you think it's ok to cut bits of children off for aesthetic reasons based on your own imaginary claim that women like them more that way is pretty funny.
    Yeah, based entirely on smelly cock syndrome. He's not even arguing religious culture.
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    Tbh this thread needs pics of the girl ong is talking about, feel free to PM me so we can shun the idiot.
  46. #23296
    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Tbh this thread needs pics of the girl ong is talking about, feel free to PM me so we can shun the idiot.
    I have come close to posting a picture of her, but I should ask her first if she objects. I doubt she will, she likes to show off, and there's pics of her on instagram that would certainly make a few of you smile.

    She's heavily tattooed. I hope that's not a turn off.
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    Yeah it is. More so if her parents did it to her as a newborn to avoid her going through it as an adult.
  48. #23298
    Hi, we were having a discussion about genital mutilation on a forum that I use and I was wondering if you'd mind if I posted your picture.
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    Is that a proposition? If so, then NO! If it's just a general question, then YES!
    Would you know the difference if your eyes were closed?

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    Doubtful. I don't care how good the BJ is, I'm not marrying someone in the century club.
    Why is it a bad thing to have experience? And inb4 you reply with "cos she a ho", why is that a bad thing? Serious question, and try to not answer with a question.
    Our brains have just one scale, and we resize our experiences to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Hi, we were having a discussion about genital mutilation on a forum that I use and I was wondering if you'd mind if I posted your picture.
    Yeah I just had to nip out, and while I was walking, I was thinking exactly this... how do I ask my friend if a bunch of pervs on the internet can check her out? It all started with talk about sucking off guys with no foreskin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    She's heavily tattooed.
    ugh, fucking gross
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    ugh, fucking gross
    Nah, I like the tats. What's gross is letting her two dogs sleep in the bed with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Would you know the difference if your eyes were closed?
    Between Ong and a woman? Yeah, yeah I would.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Why is it a bad thing to have experience? And inb4 you reply with "cos she a ho", why is that a bad thing?
    It's not a bad thing to have experience or be a ho. I love me some hos, don't get me wrong.

    It just means you're not marriage material. It's tough to have long-term lasting respect for a person whose need for attention is satisfied by constantly flaunting sex. Furthermore if it leads to you have casual sexual relationship with a triple-digit number of men, it's probably a sign of severe self-esteem issues and problems with dignity. That's not someone I want raising my children. That's not even someone I could stand to talk to every day.

    slut can stay in the gutter where she belongs
  54. #23304
    Between Ong and a woman? Yeah, yeah I would.
    He's right. If his dick gets sucked, it's a woman. If his balls get kicked, it's me.
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  55. #23305
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    He's right. If his dick gets sucked, it's a woman. If his balls get kicked, it's me.
    I imagine it's mostly just balls getting kicked.
  56. #23306
    It just means you're not marriage material.
    Not true at all. Some women are sluts when they're young, then settle down. My friend isn't marriage material, because she's incapable of holding down a relationship. But I know some people who were fucking a lot when we were younger, but are now happily married.

    If you have a problem with marrying someone who has slept with tons of guys, that's your problem, and that problem is called insecurity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    I imagine it's mostly just balls getting kicked.
    I'm not even getting that much. I wish someone would kick me in the balls.
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    Furthermore if it leads to you have casual sexual relationship with a triple-digit number of men, it's probably a sign of severe self-esteem issues and problems with dignity.
    Again, you're right here in probably the majority of cases. I can assure you my friend has no self-esteem issues. She's beautiful and knows it. Ok, she's in her 40s now and not as hot as ten years ago, but still, I don't know anyone else her age as hot as she is.
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  59. #23309
    Most of the men she's slept with, it was when she was younger, like teenage younger. And in most cases it's about control. You say sex for men is dominance, and in many cases, yes it is. For some women, perhaps a lot, it's about control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    If you have a problem with marrying someone who has slept with tons of guys, that's your problem, and that problem is called insecurity.
    If some broad plows half the town and then decides that out of all of those men, I'm the best one, I don't know how I would feel.

    Though I will say I probably won't feel insecure.
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    Between Ong and a woman? Yeah, yeah I would.
    How?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    It just means you're not marriage material. It's tough to have long-term lasting respect for a person whose need for attention is satisfied by constantly flaunting sex. Furthermore if it leads to you have casual sexual relationship with a triple-digit number of men, it's probably a sign of severe self-esteem issues and problems with dignity. That's not someone I want raising my children. That's not even someone I could stand to talk to every day.
    Are all men with several sex partners also simply looking for attention and have self-esteem issues? Who are these people, men or women, who never need attention or have self-esteem issues? Human they are not.
    Our brains have just one scale, and we resize our experiences to fit.

  62. #23312
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    she's in her 40s now and not as hot as ten years ago, but still, I don't know anyone else her age as hot as she is.
    You really should get a job. It will help you get out more.

    40 is the new 28. There are TONS of hot cougars on the prowl.
  63. #23313
    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    How?
    In Ong's case, the stench of schmegma, bong resin, and unemployed sadness would be in the room. Also, next time you're out and about, check out some mouths. Study both men's and women's mouths. Notice which gender tends to have fuller lips, softer skin, smaller tongues, etc. These are noticeable differences. If you don't think you could feel the difference on your dick, then you've probably de-sensitized yourself by jerking off too much. Careful, don't get it in your eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Are all men with several sex partners also simply looking for attention and have self-esteem issues? Who are these people, men or women, who never need attention or have self-esteem issues? Human they are not.
    I agree with you. But we're talking straight numbers here. I consider myself to be relatively slutty as 36 year old men go, but I'm still not even half way to 100.

    If you haven't worked out your attention or self-esteem issues by number 30 or so, I'd say you have a problem. If you get to 60 and still haven't taken inventory of things and realized what a disgrace you are, then you're probably not someone I want hanging around my kids. And if you get to 100 (in Ong's friend's case, before the age of 40) then I'm pretty much going to assume you're radio active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    If some broad plows half the town and then decides that out of all of those men, I'm the best one, I don't know how I would feel.

    Though I will say I probably won't feel insecure.
    Well, yeah if you look at it like that, then insecurity isn't a problem. But when you start thinking "wow she's fucked a lot of men", how does that impact on your now relationship? Are you worried she's not capable of holding down the relationship? Are you worried that you're not doing it as good as other men? Bottom line is, the problem is insecurity.

    If you're happy she picked you of all the men she fucked, and don't give a fuck about the men she fucked, well you're not insecure. You do seem to care about the number of men fucked. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I agree with you. But we're talking straight numbers here. I consider myself to be relatively slutty as 36 year old men go, but I'm still not even half way to 100.

    If you haven't worked out your attention or self-esteem issues by number 30 or so, I'd say you have a problem. If you get to 60 and still haven't taken inventory of things and realized what a disgrace you are, then you're probably not someone I want hanging around my kids. And if you get to 100 (in Ong's friend's case, before the age of 40) then I'm pretty much going to assume you're radio active.
    So the only reason you've had 20+ sex partners is self-esteem issues? Isn't it peculiar that you see your own number as perfectly normal and everything exceeding that unhealthy?
    Our brains have just one scale, and we resize our experiences to fit.

  66. #23316
    And if you get to 100 (in Ong's friend's case, before the age of 40) then I'm pretty much going to assume you're radio active.
    *before the age of 25

    The last 20 years have been what I'd call normal, as in boyfriends, rather than a fuck buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    So the only reason you've had 20+ sex partners is self-esteem issues?
    I didn't say that. Maybe I'm just a fucking dynamo, and enjoy sharing my talents

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    Isn't it peculiar that you see your own number as perfectly normal and everything exceeding that unhealthy?
    I never used the word unhealthy. I'm just saying that's not someone I want to be family with. What's wrong with that?

    I really hate the movie Pretty Woman. It gave society two erroneous stereotypes that it cant' seem to shake off.
    1) Hookers have hearts of gold
    2) Thigh high boots are just for hookers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    *before the age of 25
    Ok there is a person whose parents failed. Maybe she's stopped wearing out her vagina, but the idea that there aren't life-long issues embedded in this person is really farfetched.

    And don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with damaged goods.

    I'm just not marrying them.

    In your case Ong, if I could get her out of my life by fucking her face, I'd do it. That's a win win
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Ok there is a person whose parents failed.
    They would probably agree. They had high hopes for her, but she rebelled big time.

    In your case Ong, if I could get her out of my life by fucking her face, I'd do it. That's a win win
    She's literally the last peson I would want out of my life. I'd ditch family before her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    She's literally the last peson I would want out of my life. I'd ditch family before her.
    Would you get a job for her?

    Quit weed?

    If so, maybe you need to sit her down and have a talk. Or take her to vegas, slip her a roofie, and take her to a drive through wedding chapel.

    Either way, you can't keep living with this unrequited love. It will make you fucking nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Fair enough, but n=2 doesn't really correlate either. Banana, do you like blow jobs?



    hahaha this made me laugh. Apparently, she's very good at it, she was quite the slut a decade or so ago, the things she's said to me have almost made me cum. I would like to find out just how good she is, however she's my best friend and she doesn't remain friends with people she has romantic involvement with. So sadly I'd have to say my friendship means more than an orgasm, even if it was the best orgasm I ever had. Also, she isn't interested in me like that anyway, I'd know by now.

    Savy nails my problem with this. We're not talking about adults making choices. We're talking about butchering kids. Why is it crazy to say it shouldn't happen to children?

    You say "extra bit of skin flapping about"... it's not flapping about, it wraps itself snugly around the dick, protecting it from friction. And no it doesn't get dirty, assuming you wash it at least.

    It's mutilation. What's the point? The health benefits are debateable, so much so that no health association will go as far as recommending it as standard.

    I still don't see much difference. I suppose the removal of the clit is purely to oppress women, control their sexuality, I get the motive is different. However, both are genital mutilation, both (usually) happen against the will of the person involved (because they are children). So no, I can't get consider it acceptable to remove a boy's foreskin, just like it's unacceptable to remove a girl's clit.
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    Why one Republican voted to kill privacy rules: “Nobody has to use the Internet”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    HAHAHAHA

    Why one Republican voted to kill privacy rules: “Nobody has to use the Internet”

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...lawmaker-says/
    He's being kind of glib and a little impractical, but he's not wrong.

    This is snowflake whining at it's worst.
    "WAAAAAAHHHHH, the company that provides the things I like isn't doing it the way I want them to!!! I could stop using them, but that's inconvenient, I'd rather the government just make them behave in the way that's most convenient for me. WAAAAAAHHHH"

    It says in that article that people can opt-out if they don't like their info being used.

    If you snip off a revenue stream from an ISP, then the price of it's other revenue streams go up. And if advertisers don't have good information to target their customers, their sales volume will drop. This raises prices too.

    I don't care how you slice it, or how important you think 'internet privacy' is. Government regulations are ultra-fucking-bad. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    He's being kind of glib and a little impractical, but he's not wrong.

    This is snowflake whining at it's worst.
    "WAAAAAAHHHHH, the company that provides the things I like isn't doing it the way I want them to!!! I could stop using them, but that's inconvenient, I'd rather the government just make them behave in the way that's most convenient for me. WAAAAAAHHHH"

    It says in that article that people can opt-out if they don't like their info being used.

    If you snip off a revenue stream from an ISP, then the price of it's other revenue streams go up. And if advertisers don't have good information to target their customers, their sales volume will drop. This raises prices too.

    I don't care how you slice it, or how important you think 'internet privacy' is. Government regulations are ultra-fucking-bad. Period.
    I don't think it's just important

    https://gizmodo.com/internet-access-...ght-1783081865


    Oh and "It says in the article ... opt out" you can't opt out. You have to "opt out" of using The Internet in the US in order o opt out of this shit. I don't care how you slice it, or how unimportant you think 'internet privacy' is, clearly you have no idea about this issue.
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