Randomness thread, part two.

[a500lbgorilla]

If they'd hurry up with the muthafuckin flyin hybrids, this wouldn't be an issue.

IM SORRY



I COULDNT HEAR YOU OVER MY SCIENCE NONFICTION

[BennyLaRue]

Someone please post a pegging trip report, k, thanks.

[BennyLaRue]

DID YOU HEAR THE THREAD DO A 90 DEGREE TURN, YOU DEAF IDEALIST?!?!

[Chelle]

Truly experiencing PMS for the first time in my life, since I had a very major alter integrate.

I'm annoying the absolute fucking piss out of myself, but, I'm closer to being "better", which means holy fuck my college/work/driving shit is gonna happen maybe by the end of the year. I'm terrified, but so fucking excited. I'mma be getting my LPC, which, lol, means a Masters or Doctorate. Oh god, oh god, I'm freaking out more. K - gonna' go look at cute shit and calm down.

[a500lbgorilla]

DID YOU HEAR THE THREAD DO A 90 DEGREE TURN, YOU DEAF IDEALIST?!?!

The threshold of ideals: Anything above what I can't buy.

[surviva316]

What the hell is an alter integrate? My best guess based on context is a sex change.

[Lukie]

Boost you make some good points, and I was all set to agree with you but then I realized that Wuf also agrees with you, so there went that idea.

In all seriousness Wuf you brought up another good point about parenting. This is just a general point not really relating to the speed bumps thing. A great many things could be solved or prevented by better parenting. For example one argument I have seen laid out as it relates to childhood obesity (and all the health risks/lower quality of life that go with it) is that it is entirely the parents' responsibility to decide what their kids eat, health initiatives be damned. And most especially, government health initiatives be damned. [edit: this is poorly written. I'm not suggesting that the government and not parents should decide who eats what, merely making a point that millions of kids will grow up living off candy and mcdonalds, be fat and miserable, and eventually die at a much younger age than they otherwise would. Where to draw the line on what should be done vs what crosses the line is very much up for debate. I think requiring fast foods to divulge nutrition data, for example, is a good thing.]

That sounds good in theory but how do you go about changing how people parent?! There are times you have to treat the symptoms and not necessarily the cause. And I still think what many kids are regularly eating, especially in schools, is nothing short of a travesty but I don't have the energy to go down that road again lol.

[boost]

Lukie, I agree, sometimes you have to address the symptoms. But whenever this is the case, it should always be a short term plan, while the long term seeks to tackle the cause. Do you or I know how to better parenting? No, probably not, but it's lame to just throw our hands up and give up on the idea that someone does know how or will know how. The great thing about such a large society is that someone, somewhere is working on this precise problem. But those people lose necessary funding when the non experts decide that the knowledge they seek cannot be found, and so alleviating the symptom gets all the backing.

As for it being completely the parents fault... well you can't be a libertarian and also think it's all the parents fault. Subsidies are the cause of soda, fast food, and junk food being the ever present items in the impoverished diet. In a society with such lopsided subsidies, and where critical thinking is given virtually no class time, can you really expect parents to be capable of making the right choice? And even if they were fully aware of the consequences, there are times when feeding everyone in the family a healthy meal and avoiding future health costs may cost $250 a week, yet they only have $200 a week, and eating junk will only cost them $150 upfront. Can you really accuse them of making the wrong choice when there isn't a choice to be made?

Sure, some parents are fully capable of providing proper nutrition, but are pieces of shit and feed their kids McDonalds instead. But overall this is an issue of poverty and the ramifications of ill placed government subsidies-- not parental responsibility.

[jyms]

I think it's a pretty big stretch to think the parents know any better. Most are not healthy functioning adults either. It's not always poverty, you would be surprised at what you can eat healthy for the same prices as drive through and take out. Boost is right though about the subsidies, those same subsidies that allow the pricing to be so low is also what controls the media, dietary guidelines and general knowledge amongst even the so called "experts" like dietitians and Healthcare providers

[bikes]

to the peoples who donated my sister says thank you very much. i'll be sure to get pics of her freezing her ass off for some laughs and boog

[Chelle]

What the hell is an alter integrate? My best guess based on context is a sex change.

Lol, it's to do with the D.I.D. stuff. Alters are alternate identities in my brain-space. Basically a fucking huge one that gave me a fuck-ton of problems, has integrated, which means that alter is now not an alter anymore, and it's went back into my core identity [me, obv].

I have 4 more alters to do this, which is fucking insane to me, and after those 4 alters are all integrated, and I haven't had a seizure in 6 months, I can do shit that I really, really, really want to do with my life. Had a seizure about 2 or so weeks ago, whereas I was having anywhere from 6-10 a day when shit first started in '08.

[boost]

I just watched a contemporary SNL skit, and I laughed, a lot.. Head asplode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=m2pK60VlnJ8

[bigred]

Your SNL skit brought me to this one after some clicking on related links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJzCqoyUW0I

It's amazing how JT went from a boy band liked by 12 year olds to one hilarious person

[boost]

Haha, the spoofs were really funny-- everything inbetween? Not so much.

But yeah, it's cool to see the guy get away from his boy band image and be a real human being. Also, check out Leo... he was similarly a teenage girl hearth throb, and now he's a respected actor.

[MadMojoMonkey]

You all know what a prefix is, and you know what a suffix is. So I bet you can guess what an infix is.

There is one infix in the English language.

Can you figure it out?

Spoiler: Show

The answer is un-fucking-believable!

[bikes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yekOCpdc6Hc

EXTREMELY NSFW.

this is delightful for lots of reasons, including the musics.

[wufwugy]

[BennyLaRue]

You were right not to post it in the lolpics thread.

[bikes]

[KoRnholio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yekOCpdc6Hc

EXTREMELY NSFW.

this is delightful for lots of reasons, including the musics.

I see your $100 and raise you $10,000!!!1!!

Click on this linkuhhh.. do it quick!

NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW
http://vimeo.com/44136469
NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW

^ Very extremely OMFG if you click this at work and you aren't in Germany you'll probably get fired on the spot!

[a500lbgorilla]

http://www.npr.org/series/174755100/buried-in-grain

NPR series run this week. I think there are more articles than just those in this 'series', at least I feel like there are more.

I almost posted into that US Federal Budget spun off into a Free Market discussion thread because it's an incredible case study in both the necessity of regulation and the failure of regulation.

[a500lbgorilla]

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

Another incredible series run by npr this week about the incredible boom of the rolls of disability. States moving people out of their own budgets and onto a federal program, people who have no idea that you can work sitting down, and the final stage of anyone's career being registered for minimum wage+ earnings for the rest of their days with no way to transition out.

[a500lbgorilla]

Just gonna keep up with this npr dump.

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/26/175288...g-world-war-ii

Great bit about the struggle of America to decide whether or not to commit to the war.

Spoiler alert, it looked a lot like politics today and was only settled by Pearl Harbor.

[a500lbgorilla]

http://www.npr.org/series/174755100/buried-in-grain

NPR series run this week. I think there are more articles than just those in this 'series', at least I feel like there are more.

I almost posted into that US Federal Budget spun off into a Free Market discussion thread because it's an incredible case study in both the necessity of regulation and the failure of regulation.

Post #9696

I'd like to imagine it's a cold night, a hot couple, and another couple of people just looking for some warmth with their backs to the 'fire'.

[Lukie]

holy mackerel

After years of having divisions with 5, 5, 4, 5, 6, and 5 teams in Major League Baseball, they finally evened them out to 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, and 5.

[bigspenda73]

Astros got win 1 of 54 tonight...woot!

This is poker related but pretty ridiculous, didn't know Skype has this big a security leak.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-will-1316970/

[BennyLaRue]

I'm in China. No fortune cookies anywhere.

[Chelle]

wat.

[bikes]

ddos'ing is big in everything spenda =(

[Lukie]

When I was younger I worked as a busser in a restaurant, and the servers bitched about pretty much everything. This customer who got crappy service only tipped 10 or 15%, this person was too demanding, this person asked for too much water, this busser is cleaning her tables faster than mine, blah blah blah.

One time my friend and fellow busser told me that a waitress said that I was as useful as tits on a board. I'm positive (or at least the time was positive) that is exactly what he said. The saying didn't really make a whole lot of sense, but it is a funny story that I have relayed over the years.

The saying of course is 'useless as tits on a boar.'

cliffs notes: fml/first world problems/tl; dr

[d0zer]

Me farmer mum used to say "useless as tits on a bull", apparently getting the expression from her paw. Lol rednecks.

[supa]

Nads on a priest, tits on a nun and these goddamn ants!

[wufwugy]

my father has old timey rustic sayings up the ass. tits on a boar was always my least favorite. "cold as a witch's tit" is number two

favorite is probably "good enough for the girls we go with" because ive yet to hear anybody else use it.

[supa]

"I'm gonna cloud up and rain all over you."

[JL]

my father has old timey rustic sayings up the ass. tits on a boar was always my least favorite. "cold as a witch's tit" is number two

favorite is probably "good enough for the girls we go with" because ive yet to hear anybody else use it.

An old guy that I used to work with said this all the time, so I started saying it for the lulz. My wife gives me an evil glare anytime I use it in front of her.

[bikes]

am about 10s from tearing the house apart because someone has either taken it upon themselves to either take my nyquil from me or hide it.

[BennyLaRue]

Ain't nothing lower than jonesing for NyQuil, bro.

[Lukie]

great and easy chicken soup recipe, from a weightlifting coach of all places: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWzbg4gGLEc

one of the things I really like about this is the addition of copious amounts of broccoli and cauliflower, 2 things I have often tried eating more of but haven't found many great ways to do so. that famous broccoli soup recipe gets old after a while and cauliflower pizza takes too long to make.

summary of his obviously loosely followed recipe for those not wanting to watch all 12:46 of it:

- bone in chicken pieces into crock pot. can use anything but in this specific example he used 3 bone in chicken breasts with rib meat

- add chicken stock to crock pot. looks like maybe 24 ounces or so. he used one of those cardboard tubs; I used 2 cans of cheap butterball chicken broth that totaled 32 ounces i think.

- add 1 bag frozen broccoli (probably 1lb)

- add 1 bag frozen cauliflower (probably 1lb)

- add carrots. looked to be 2 lb baby carrots. not sure if frozen or fresh, shouldn't matter much. i used fresh.

- moderate amount of louisiana hot sauce. enough for flavor, not enough to make it taste anything like hot sauce. I used sriracha.

- salt and pepper to taste

- better than bouillon vegetable base, end of spoon's worth. I omitted this but when making again I will probably use a small amount of freshly chopped onion and celery in the future, since they are common in chicken soup and because the product has both of those as ingredients.

- add water

- cook for 4-6 hours, de-bone chicken, discard bones, add meat back to crock pot

- add extra wide egg noodles, if desired

- cook another 30-60 minutes

- eat and enjoy. i also took the advice of keeping it on warm and just eating a bowl here and there. it has been 24 hours since I started cooking this and it is still good, possibly better than it was last night. note that my crock pot cooks very hot; high is ridiculously hot, low eventually brings liquids to a simmer/borderline boil, and warm keeps food temp above the danger zone (i hope) but not enough to completely obliterate the food.

This is really good stuff.

[jyms]

Haven't watched it yet, but I usually dry roast the chicken in the crock pot. Pull the meat off and save it. Then make the stock after with all the bones and skin and stuff. I filter the stock toss the chicken back in a huge pot with the veggies and more seasoning. Once everything is done I take out a bunch of it, puree in the food processor and use that to thicken the soup. That shit rocks. Quinoa is a great addition too, instead of rice or noodles.

[wufwugy]

Great Kurzweil lecture uploaded today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mEcl6Pwf0M

[Lukie]

Haven't watched it yet, but I usually dry roast the chicken in the crock pot. Pull the meat off and save it. Then make the stock after with all the bones and skin and stuff. I filter the stock toss the chicken back in a huge pot with the veggies and more seasoning. Once everything is done I take out a bunch of it, puree in the food processor and use that to thicken the soup. That shit rocks. Quinoa is a great addition too, instead of rice or noodles.

That sounds like it would be really good. Homemade stock really is the best. It just takes more time and effort. I also used to make soup with rice or no grain at all. Never really used quinoa but I will try it.

Here's another twist on your concept, or at least how I have done it many times in the past:

Roast a well seasoned fryer or roaster on a roasting pan in the oven. I like using a rub of salt, pepper, paprika/cayenne, onion and garlic powder, and thyme.

Enjoy the chicken, set aside extra meat, dump all cooking juices and extra skin and bones into a sauce pan. In this method the roasted/carmelized skin imparts a wonderful flavor on the finished product. Either simmer that stock right away or put it in the fridge and do it the next day. It just needs to be set at an extremely light simmer for several hours. Then strain it out, refridgerate, and skim the fat off when it hardens. Note that I personally skip the part about freezing bones, and I don't make the stock with aromatics (onions/celery/carrots) although there is nothing wrong with that. It is just a lot more work.

I like very thick soup so any veggies I would have used in the stock making stage, I just use as actual veggies to be used in the main soup. It's very easy to make soup at this stage. For example I might simmer onions, celery, carrots, and any other veggies plus occasionally some white rice for 20 minutes or so in just enough water to cook everything. Towards the end add various seasoning/salt/flavoring e.g. salt/garlic powder/parsley, or bouillon, or canned condensed cream soup, and anything that only really needs heated through, like leftover chicken or ingredients from other meals. add water as necessary of course.

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

Lebron James and the Heat vs the best women's college basketball team of all time (past, present, or future).

-Lebron James has to score 80% of the team's points and the other team knows this
-NBA rules/regulations

Can LeBron James score 200 points?

[wufwugy]

easily

[bode]

not in a 48 minute game. 100 points yes, but it would be tough for an NBA team (no stipulation of one player scoring x% of points) to put up 200 points on a womens team in that time unless they were shooting really hot.

[Lukie]

My first thought was a resounding no, just on the grounds of the amount of scoring in 1 game. However it can be a yes, depending on what assumptions are being made.

Let's assume the Heat play like the following:

1. The main goal is to get LBJ to score 200 points, making the 80%+ requirement effectively redundant. This would mean for example, that another wide open player under the basket would pass the ball instead of making a routine layup/dunk.

2. They play very intensely, like it was an NBA finals game (vs OKC, not Dallas )

3. As per above, gamesmanship specific to this bet is allowed. Unethical considerations are not. For example, neither team is trying to injure a player on the other team.

The team itself would be able to score at ease and on darn near 100% of possessions. I also don't think even some of the best Tennessee or UConn women's basketball teams would be able to get the ball past half court, meaning they will rarely hold the ball longer than 8 seconds. 2880 seconds in a game, LBJ must score 2 points every 28.8 seconds.

If the women's team is playing normal strategy, he does it easily. If the main goal is to stop Lebron, he should still be able to do it as per assumption #1 above.

I say yes.

[Lukie]

Also I kind of ignored the prospects of future great teams. Hey you never know what kind of bionic super freaks might come in the future. That probably belongs in the Kurzweil thread though.

edit: that Kurzweil thread happens to be this one

[Lukie]

Here is another hypothetical scenario:

normal game, men's high school national champion vs WNBA champion. That's it. You can account for rules/ball size differences if you think it matters.

[rebuyman]

men's high school team wins handily

national champions this year were Lone Peak

They got players 6'10, 6'8, 6'6, 6'6, 6'5. Then some guards who are going to play college ball.

Looking at last WNBA all star game, you got two players over 6'4.

guys are faster, stronger, taller, etc.

[Lukie]

men's high school team wins handily

national champions this year were Lone Peak

They got players 6'10, 6'8, 6'6, 6'6, 6'5. Then some guards who are going to play college ball.

Looking at last WNBA all star game, you got two players over 6'4.

guys are faster, stronger, taller, etc.

I agree.

What type of men's basketball team would be roughly even vs WNBA champs? honest question

[kiwiMark]

ever since ice cube left they just haven't been the same

[rebuyman]

I agree.

What type of men's basketball team would be roughly even vs WNBA champs? honest question

team made up of the wnba players' husbands

[Lukie]

team made up of the wnba players' husbands

Give me the team with Shelden Williams

[eugmac]

[Lukie]

Maybe there is a reason to own a cat after all.

[Lukie]

Maybe there is a reason to own a cat after all.

Actually, no there isn't.

[seven-deuce]

While we're on the topic of cats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4

[bikes]

ladies and gentlemen, i call dibs.

[eugmac]

i especially liked how her expert technique ensures that her bow is never in sync with the sound.

[MadMojoMonkey]

She did a cover of Radioactive with Pentatonix a few months ago.

[a500lbgorilla]

ladies and gentlemen, i call dibs.

Oh I like this one.

[Lukie]

what are some good fitness sites or forums that you guys read? just wondering. bodybuilding.com is full of yolo retards and broscience, starting strength YNDTP drink milk and squat you pussy, pendlayforum is just too specialized and low-traffic for general needs, lyle's site has been cleared of nearly all the good posters because they get sick of how tight the ship is run, etc. etc. etc.

[jyms]

Ya, I have actually stopped reading the forums. I follow a few IF guys and haven't found much else. I do read some of steroids.com in the over 40 and nutrition forums. I also sometimes read lyle's "MonkeyIsland" forum too, that one is better than the "straight" one. THe BB world is full of BS right now, so many kids and 150lb people arguing over Broscience.

[bikes]

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...ck_iama_hello/

louis ck ama

[Pascal]

<3

[Lukie]

Ya, I have actually stopped reading the forums. I follow a few IF guys and haven't found much else. I do read some of steroids.com in the over 40 and nutrition forums. I also sometimes read lyle's "MonkeyIsland" forum too, that one is better than the "straight" one. THe BB world is full of BS right now, so many kids and 150lb people arguing over Broscience.

I remember lurking Monkeyisland a bit in the past (made an account years ago just to do that) and just pulled it up right now. First thread I click on actually has some interesting conjecture relating to some of the recent low carb and dairy threads on here.

Keep in mind that this forum post I am quoting here was made back in 2005, and it obviously wasn't refined enough to put into a book or anything. Yet even today I still tend to think this is all pretty accurate and that a lot of people are missing the boat on eating whole, regular, unprocessed foods and a good part of the reason why. Personally I think Lyle is a bright guy; I just don't agree with how the new, friendly (yeah, right) site is run and the quality has suffered badly because of it IMO.

Was going to put this in the thread that put it back in my mind but decided to make another post.

In that thread, the issue came up regarding red meat as a source of iron and zinc versus just taking pills with me, as usual, banging the drum on eating red meat instead of just popping pills.

Here's at least part of the reason and my half-assed theory: I have this hunch that nutrients in food are not only absorbed better (bioavailability) but utilized better by the body. In some cases, this is clearly due to the structure of the nutrient, for examlpe heme vs. non-heme iron with heme iron (found in red meat) something something like a 10X better absorption than non-heme (found in veggies).

The other part is that I think there may be better absorption/utilization due to the presence of other nutrients (some of which we probably haven't even identified).

Consider, for example, the data showing that natural Vitamin E intakes have a protective effect compared to just taking Vitamin E pills. It's being suggested that the difference is that naturally occuring Vitamin E occurs as a comlex of the different E isoforms along with other compounds (tocotrienols in this case).

The main thing that drove this home for me was when I was looking at the calcium data a couple of years back. Having seen that dairy calcium appeared to work better than non-dairy and not buying the idea that it waas other substances in the dairy (proteins), I concluded that the basic issue was one of absorption and bioavailiability.

So I set out to design the ultimate calcium delivery system. I looked at the data on everything that affects calcium absorption. It turned out that small amounts of sodium, protein, carbs and a few others affected it. When I put it all together, I came up with milk.

And I gave up on the project.

But the point was made, milk exists primarily as a calcium delivery system, it is nutritionally optimized towards such.

It wouldn't surprise me if the same went for red meat and iron. God knows what other co-factors and nutrients are present in red meat that make it such an ideal source of iron, zinc and the rest.

Citrus fruit probably contains other nutrients which maximize vitamin C absorption.

Clearly the anti-oxidant data showing that high fruit/veggie intakes have a different effect than isolated anti-oxidants do is supportive.

So that's the half-assed theory, here's the half-assed application.
At the very least, I think choosing whole foods is superior to pills. That's not the half-assed theory part.

If you must use pills (here's the half-assed part), I have this hunch that consuming it with some of the food that contains that nutrient (i.e. take your calcium pills with some type of dairy, take your Vitamin C with some orange juice) might improve the effect of the pill.

I have little direct data to support this but what amounts to circumstantial evidence leading me to believe it for the time being.

In my opinion, the idea is probably more important than the specifics listed. Not sure whether he still believes in the half-assed application part. It's common for people to change ideas on subjects after 8 years.

[wufwugy]

i remember that post

[Lukie]

i remember that post

I remember you saying that full body workouts and upper/lower splits were the best ways to organize training, or something to that effect. I thought you were nuts. Now I go back and forth between full body routines and upper/lower splits.

For what it's worth, I still think you are kind of crazy.

[wufwugy]

arm day is the only day that matters

[Lukie]

arm day is the only day that matters

ha

I don't know if it's just the gym I go to, but people don't even do bench and arms anymore. It's more like flies and cable crossovers and arms. A couple guys really like doing decline barbell bench press, but it's standard to stack ~3 25lb plates underneath the contact point underneath the legs. Yes that seems to be as dangerous as it sounds. Oh and at any given time half the people are probably doing lateral raises or isolation arm work.

[a500lbgorilla]

ha

I don't know if it's just the gym I go to, but people don't even do bench and arms anymore. It's more like flies and cable crossovers and arms. A couple guys really like doing decline barbell bench press, but it's standard to stack ~3 25lb plates underneath the contact point underneath the legs. Yes that seems to be as dangerous as it sounds. Oh and at any given time half the people are probably doing lateral raises or isolation arm work.

edit nevermind

[wufwugy]

ha

I don't know if it's just the gym I go to, but people don't even do bench and arms anymore. It's more like flies and cable crossovers and arms. A couple guys really like doing decline barbell bench press, but it's standard to stack ~3 25lb plates underneath the contact point underneath the legs. Yes that seems to be as dangerous as it sounds. Oh and at any given time half the people are probably doing lateral raises or isolation arm work.

Yeah this sounds like it has always been. Decline bench guy is probably doing that because more weight can be used than flat bench, so he feels stronger

Flyes have got to be the silliest free weight lift people do. Skullcrushers #2. Don't get me wrong, though, they have some uses. The main thing I would do them for is if I *feel* an imbalance in muscle recruitment. What I mean by this is that my own personal example is that it seemed my hamstrings werent doing what they were supposed to during a movement like deadlifts, so I focused on stiff-legged and getting a hamstring stretch. Then my normal deadlift seemed to use hamstrings better. They also seemed to be activated more when doing simple things like walking up stairs or mowing the lawn. I also did a similar sort of thing with pecs by doing slow, stretching flyes with isometrics

It could just be voodoo, but I don't think it is. I think that stretching a muscle during a lift can help solve any imbalance it may have. Other than that, it's fine to occasionally do high TUT flyes with an isometric stretch at bottom IMO

[wufwugy]

this man is my new hero

[Lukie]

I have had similar experiences with RDL and deadlifts. That is the former definitely helped the latter. I think it is a combination of strengthening the musculature involved and doing it in a similar way (stretch reflex), and also just getting more practice in those positions and extending the shoulders. I used to have a problem with deadlifts swinging away from my body when the bar got above the knees.

damn gif is advancing like 1 frame every 10 seconds

[Lukie]

By the way, I was thinking about some of my earlier comments about how Lyle runs his forum so tight that the quality of discussion and many of the good posters left. Maybe that's fair maybe it's not. I kind of had a lightbulb moment though that it is probably a very good thing for his business model.

Forums don't usually make sites much money. You and I having a discussion for example doesn't really make FTR money. You really need to get new people on the site looking around and clicking on things etc. FTR makes money signing people up to poker sites. Lyle makes money moving books.

A bunch of experts on the forums beating up on newbies doesn't do anything to move books. High level discussion between advanced members doesn't move books. Beating up on newbies probably prevents books from being moved. So probably the best thing to do is write a ton of articles, use some SEO, and just have a bunch of simpletons redirect the traffic to the main site (read the articles, search the site, etc) where all the book plugs are.

Maybe not such a crazy guy after all.

[wufwugy]

I've probably only been to the nice forum once. It's probably good for his business model, but I think most the regs still post on the mean forum (monkeyisland). Well, not most because most have left, but the ones that stick around. Even the hardasses leave that site because Lyle is belligerent. It's a clique where if he thinks something, the people on his good side attack, and if you disagree with him, you get on his bad side.

I was one of the main content providers on that site years ago, but left because they're all kinda just pricks