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Originally Posted by Poopadoop
I mean really man, you seem more upset by people misusing the word "racism" than you do about actual racism. It just seems a strange, and honestly a bit self-centred, way of prioritising things.
You'd probably see it differently if there was someone in this discussion actually saying racist things.
Not sure where you're trying to go with this, except possibly to distract attention from anything serious, so I'm not going to pursue it.
It comes back to my point that I believe racial identity is a huge part of the problem. It's ingrained in us all, even myself. I try not to do it, but it's inevitable when talking about race.
Simply put, it was positive for us and negative for them, yes.
It's not that simple. We didn't just give them Christianity, we also gave them industry.
Not really expert on this topic, but I dare say they were better off before we came along and worse during and after.
I doubt this is true in all cases, and it will depend on who you're asking. I mean, one Indian might say British colonialism was the worst thing that happened to India, another might say it was the best. Personally, I'm not qualified to say either way. But it's history. I don't hold a grudge against Iceland or Norway because of the Vikings.
Edit: What you say here is kind of like saying Native Americans are better off now than they were when they roamed free on the plains chasing buffalo because now they have mobile phones.
Yeah, but it's subjective, and it's not necessarily something I agree with. I'd rather a simple life, but that doesn't mean it's best for humanity. In 100 years, maybe this process we're going through will be seen as essential to create the kind of civilisation that will exist then, with great medical care, science, art, all the things that separate us from the monkeys.
If you'd rather be a monkey than a human, that's fine, but you can't impose that will on everyone. Not everyone sees it that way.
The difference though is that at least in WWII we were unquestionably on the right side of things overall.
Were we though? How can you be sure this isn't just indoctrination? I mean, where did all the Nazi scientists end up? How can you know that what we're taught is the truth? You appreciate we teach bullshit when it comes to colonialism, but you assume we're the good guys in WWII because we weren't gassing Jews. Well we knew it was happening, and we waiting until they threatened the rest of Europe before acting. At least, that's my understanding of how it panned out. Perhaps that's me being indoctrinated, too. We believe what we're taught.
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