Randomness thread, part two.

[spoonitnow]

The lady doth protest too much ldo

Sometimes you've just gotta hit the bitch.

[d0zer]

so uncouth these southern trailer-dwelling types are

[Chelle]

bling blang blaow.

[Galapogos]

TIL spoon is a PUA. I also learned what a "PUA" is. enlightening.

I actually guessed that was what it stood for when I saw that being thrown around a few other times. Never looked into it to see that guys broke it down into some kind of science. That seems weird. I can't picture someone who isn't good at talking to people ever following this steps and not coming off as super awkward and/or creepy.

Are there any guys on this forum that haven't been able to talk to women that started using this and were successful? Speak up in the name of science please!

[jyms]

You don't need this PUA shit, just a POF account. Shit gets easy then

[bikes]

You don't need this PUA shit, just a POF account. Shit gets easy then

dude..................................

[Chelle]

Sometimes I'm concerned that if I roll my eyes too hard they're gonna get stuck, and I won't be able to function as good.

[spoonitnow]

I actually guessed that was what it stood for when I saw that being thrown around a few other times. Never looked into it to see that guys broke it down into some kind of science. That seems weird. I can't picture someone who isn't good at talking to people ever following this steps and not coming off as super awkward and/or creepy.

Are there any guys on this forum that haven't been able to talk to women that started using this and were successful? Speak up in the name of science please!

There's an FTR regular who I'm not going to name (and Chelle knows who this is too and I trust that she won't name him either) who came to me with some problems with women a few years ago. His girlfriend had gotten naked at a party and ran around dancing on tables and shit, and he wasn't sure if he should break up with her or not which (and he'll agree) is a pretty straight-forward yes and it's not even close. I helped to ease him into a more moderate schooling of game than strict PUA tactics, and he's doing quite well. He's happier, more successful and does much, much better with women.

Consevative/red pill relationship game would probably jive better with the FTR crowd than pure late 90s PUA cookie cutter material.

[Chelle]

To me there's a difference in being a PUA and just having 'game', or learning your own style of 'game'. But yeah, that was a 10000% yes on that issue.

We're complex creatures, both men and women - and spewing out some lines and trying to string a female to your bed for a little bit of entertainment seems pretty disrespectful to the whole human population. Being honest, in my opinion, shows confidence - females like that. Hell, males love a confident women, at least a strong male does. Some get ignorant and try to suppress a females confidence. But, then again, the same can be said for a female trying to dim a males' confidence.

In other news - I put apple cider vinegar on my sunburn, and the redness is mostly gone. Yay!

[Galapogos]

His girlfriend had gotten naked at a party and ran around dancing on tables and shit, and he wasn't sure if he should break up with her or not which (and he'll agree) is a pretty straight-forward yes and it's not even close. I helped to ease him into a more moderate schooling of game than strict PUA tactics, and he's doing quite well. He's happier, more successful and does much, much better with women.

Isn't that just about not being a pussy though? I checked out some videos on Youtube by "experts" (I don't know who are the actual experts and who's just claiming to be for views) and there are some serious cringe moments in their videos, it just feels very forced and scripted and I'm surprised the girls don't pick up on this. Or maybe the girls don't care? I guess everyone has a few stories failing pretty hard trying to get to know a girl and being successful despite it. Anyway, I guess if I were a single guy and I were using these kinds of scripted checklists I'd feel way more self-conscious about how lame I sounded doing it than how lame I could make myself sound on my own.

[kiwiMark]

I guess spoon gonna disagree with me, but my take on it is that a decent part of it is that the guys feel totally lost talking to girls and so are nervous wrecks - give them some kind of a, like, framework and they're not so nervous any more (not feeling totally lost any more and if it goes wrong it's the internet expert's bad instructions' fault not mine, etc.), which is what's doing the magic rather than the 'game' itself.

source: i have read 'the game', although that's admittedly more a story than instructions

[rpm]

i'm pretty damn shit at women but all this checklist "PUA" stuff is fucking hilarious, even to me. i'm guessing kiwi's right that it's intended to help/profit from (?) extreme introverts/people suffering from acute social anxiety etc

[Chelle]

i'm pretty damn shit at women but all this checklist "PUA" stuff is fucking hilarious, even to me. i'm guessing kiwi's right that it's intended to help/profit from (?) extreme introverts/people suffering from acute social anxiety etc

Lol, I've got pretty bad social anxiety /and/ I'm introverted - so to me a 'checklist' still sounds like a stupid idea. You know how you talk to someone when you're scared about making a fool out of yourself? You do it anyway, and hope for the best.

[spoonitnow]

I guess spoon gonna disagree with me, but my take on it is that a decent part of it is that the guys feel totally lost talking to girls and so are nervous wrecks - give them some kind of a, like, framework and they're not so nervous any more (not feeling totally lost any more and if it goes wrong it's the internet expert's bad instructions' fault not mine, etc.), which is what's doing the magic rather than the 'game' itself.

source: i have read 'the game', although that's admittedly more a story than instructions

This is a degree of it for a number of guys who get into it. Many aren't necessarily nervous talking to girls, but have been given such bad advice growing up that they don't see success. I would say a solid 30-40 percent are not scared to talk to a girl, and for the other 60-70 percent, the first step is just forcing them to approach. Once you get them approaching, then you work refining the social skills to actually make it work.

Isn't that just about not being a pussy though? I checked out some videos on Youtube by "experts" (I don't know who are the actual experts and who's just claiming to be for views) and there are some serious cringe moments in their videos, it just feels very forced and scripted and I'm surprised the girls don't pick up on this. Or maybe the girls don't care? I guess everyone has a few stories failing pretty hard trying to get to know a girl and being successful despite it. Anyway, I guess if I were a single guy and I were using these kinds of scripted checklists I'd feel way more self-conscious about how lame I sounded doing it than how lame I could make myself sound on my own.

A lot of men are raised to be pussies by people with the best of intentions, and without a strong father figure (or other mentor figure) to get them out of it, they're on their own.

As far as the scripted checklist thing goes, that's a weak form of game that's typically given to newer guys who just need somewhere to start so that they can get used to approaching. Like I mentioned to kiwiMark above, once you get them approaching, you want to get them to move past that scripted type of scenario as quickly as possible.

It's a lot like learning anything else, really.

[rpm]

do you coach "game" as well as poker spoon? why do you know so much about this

[bikes]

do you coach "game" as well as poker spoon? why do you know so much about this

it's fckng hard out here for a pimp

[spoonitnow]

do you coach "game" as well as poker spoon? why do you know so much about this

TRP as a whole is about increasing your value as a masculine man, and I'm on that shit like white on rice

[d0zer]

TRP as a whole is about increasing your value as a masculine man

Now I have to visit that silly sub again...

My Message is a reminder to never let your guard down and slip back to bluepill, you need redpill to get women’s attention, but you also need it to keep those women you love. You can love them, but dont ever let them know it, dont make my mistake.

As Alpha men, we must first assume what we have been told is a lie, make a judgement on the consequences of acting on that lie, and then determine our course of action based on those consequences.

I keep my promises. If you tell a broad you are going to drop kick her car into next year if she doesn't bring you bear by noon, then guess what you gotta do if she doesn't follow through? Follow through.

None of these people are happy. I can feel their repressed tears through the screen.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-red-pill-reddit-2013-8

The prime candidates for this community generally seem to be men who, for whatever reason, have had bad luck with women or have been otherwise wronged by a female.

And there you have it. I can't think of a worse place to learn about being a "masculine man" than a community of wronged dorks who fail at relationships so bad that they need to participate in some silly "man up and hide your feelings" community. Most of it sounds like lessons in faux confidence. How men 'should' act with little of any mention of how to attain real confidence.

[Chelle]

And there you have it. I can't think of a worse place to learn about being a "masculine man" than a community of wronged dorks who fail at relationships so bad that they need to participate in some silly "man up and hide your feelings" community. Most of it sounds like lessons in faux confidence. How men 'should' act with little of any mention of how to attain real confidence.

[spoonitnow]

Keep cherry-picking, but that article at http://www.businessinsider.com/the-r...-reddit-2013-8 is so full of blatant lies that it's ridiculous, and the TRP subreddit is a very small, heavily-PUA leaning part of the whole, and neither of these are representative of TRP as a whole.

Here's a much better explanation: http://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/2...d-pill-is.html

Cliffs: PUA:TRP::Westboro Baptist:Christianity

[d0zer]

Cliffs: PUA:TRP::Westboro Baptist:Christianity

Except WBC isn't considered a legitimate tool in Christianity's toolbox like PUA shit is to TRP.

[spoonitnow]

Except WBC isn't considered a legitimate tool in Christianity's toolbox like PUA shit is to TRP.

It's a part of the spectrum that gets a lot of attention for its more outlandish characteristics.

[rpm]

hmm yeah all this TRP PUA game theory of seduction shit is new to me but goddamn they come across as a bunch of miserable cunts. it's pretty much a disgruntled community for the ugliest and most socially retarded people to console one another, confirm each other's "manlihood", and attempt to help one another make the most of what little social capital they can muster between them to try to manipulate women to their ends, right? i mean, is that not pretty much the function and demographic of that community in reality? i'm not surprised there's a strong stench of misogyny and macho insecurity when it's a community which naturally attracts that demographic and serves that purpose. that article goes on about how there is no subtext, no ideology, implicit worldview or assumptions about gender relations etc, it's just a community of blokes committed to helping each other get laid more. then a few paragraphs in:

"The true Red Pill man does not blame women for what they have become. He merely recognizes the paucity of quality women in our society"

"The Red Pill doesn't blame women for the "defects innate to the female sex", it accepts them and teaches strategies of how to counter them"

.... oh please

[rpm]

^ not intended as an attack on spoon. more a product of my distaste for the "masculinity" advocated by this red pill thing

[bigred]

This is not random nor is it interesting. 911 call to Lukie imo

[spoonitnow]

hmm yeah all this TRP PUA game theory of seduction shit is new to me but goddamn they come across as a bunch of miserable cunts. it's pretty much a disgruntled community for the ugliest and most socially retarded people to console one another, confirm each other's "manlihood", and attempt to help one another make the most of what little social capital they can muster between them to try to manipulate women to their ends, right? i mean, is that not pretty much the function and demographic of that community in reality? i'm not surprised there's a strong stench of misogyny and macho insecurity when it's a community which naturally attracts that demographic and serves that purpose. that article goes on about how there is no subtext, no ideology, implicit worldview or assumptions about gender relations etc, it's just a community of blokes committed to helping each other get laid more. then a few paragraphs in:

"The true Red Pill man does not blame women for what they have become. He merely recognizes the paucity of quality women in our society"

"The Red Pill doesn't blame women for the "defects innate to the female sex", it accepts them and teaches strategies of how to counter them"

.... oh please

Notes as I read through your post:

A very small part of TRP spectrum is about seduction, and not all of that part of the spectrum is PUA-related. Manhood isn't confirmed, but it is encouraged for men to improve themselves for the sake of their own manhood. The manipulation of women is not a major part of the equation except in that small slice which is PUA-related, as mentioned numerous times. The function of that community is to give means and advice to men on how to improve themselves for themselves and not for someone else (ie: women), so your idea of it being centered around manipulating women is false. Moreover, you completely miss the same acceptance of the defects innate to the male sex and the strategies of how to counter those for self-improvement as well.

[bikes]

pneumonia can suck a dick.

[jyms]

pneumonia can suck a dick.

Switch pneumonia with almost any woman's name and this becomes a compliment.

[bigred]

pneumonia can suck a dick.

THAT'S HOW YOU GET SYPHILIS

[Chelle]

man, why cupcakes gotta be so cute.

[jyms]

[rpm]

@spoon yeah fuck knows why i do that sometimes. must have been menstruating. do ignore plz

[oskar]

I live alone in a 2nd floor apartment which is entirely soundproof for reasons unknown to me. When I wake up and make coffee I practice animal sounds, which is perfectly inconspicuous during the winter. Not so much when I left all windows open during the night and forget about it in the morning. I hope my neighbors respect me for my killer turkey imitation.

[spoonitnow]

no homo

[bigred]

no homo

I hate this phrase sooooo hard

[Chelle]

made fresh blueberry pancakes and topped 'em with a smashed up strawberry in some honey. yeah, it was fucking amazing.

[d0zer]

Caesars on patio. Sunny day. Fuck yes.

[a500lbgorilla]

Toronto is a hell of a town.

[bikes]

hello infection my old friend.
my mouth is a cesspool once again.

[jyms]

Old Vets would die a slow death if they had come back to FTR and seen what is becoming of the Randomness thread.

[bikes]

Old Vets would die a slow death if they had come back to FTR and seen what is becoming of the Randomness thread.

by all means contribute something useful then imo

[jyms]

I tried...And I wasn't referring to you actually. You are very random

[ChipEaterMan]

I prefer Rachel McAdams. She's my type of girl

[Chelle]

I've been doing really great lately - then Saturday night it's like my brain is like HEY FEEL ALONE AND SHITTY. The grieving process is some weird shit. So yeah, yesterday, and today have also been kinda bleh. Sorry for the downer, guys. I hope everyone is doing great. <3

[spoonitnow]

I hate this phrase sooooo hard

no homo

[bigred]

pro homo

[a500lbgorilla]

[Luco]

I prefer Rachel McAdams. She's my type of girl

On a scale of one to two, I'd give her one

[oskar]

I follow internet activity of terminally ill people because it makes me feel better about myself.
https://www.blogger.com/profile/11409839233219221500
http://henrysbigmouth.blogspot.co.at/2011/05/end.html
He had a youtube channel by the same name that got taken down a year or two ago. His vlogs were extremely hard to understand due to his condition. He got 5-10 views on his vlogs but he had hundreds. I believe the full name was Henry Lafont. I can't find any new information.

https://twitter.com/zokiNlive
http://www.twitch.tv/kurirko402/profile
Quadriplegic guy streams sc2, but he had a bad thing half a year ago according to his twitter, and he's either not out of rehabilitation yet or diseased. His last tweet was 'yellow!' in april this year. Was a nice guy, played sc2 with him when he was still streaming.

The most tragic one that disappeared was a mentally retarded kid that did weather reports on youtube. That honestly was the best thing ever, but the channel got taken down and I have no hopes of it reappearing.

[jackvance]

Among friends, that's the kind of humour I'd expect only myself to laugh with.

Functionally, it's wrong though. If he always repeats nine, you can use a subset of his string of numbers to predict the other values, hence it's not random!

[a500lbgorilla]

Among friends, that's the kind of humour I'd expect only myself to laugh with.

Functionally, it's wrong though. If he always repeats nine, you can use a subset of his string of numbers to predict the other values, hence it's not random!

But he's not an only repeats nines generator, he's a random number generator.

Random is one of those things that's crazy difficult to define. But the randomness is a property of the source, not the output.

Though, you're right. Listen to him say nine long enough and it's very likely he's not random.

[jackvance]

Yeah it's tricky, I've had this discussion with people before. In say python you have a random number generator that always creates the same stream of (pseudo-)random numbers. So what exactly is random about this when it is always the same everyone wonders? You can be sure there will be no dependencies in this number stream. You can not take a subset of its output and use it to predict the rest in a way that can be generalized. That's the ideal at least and computer's pseudo-random is.. close enough.

[Savy]

I just straight up don't think you got the joke.

[d0zer]

savy doesn't get the ironic anti-joke of deconstructing a dilbert comic with dorky nitpicking.

[kiwiMark]

It is kinda shitty nitpicking though because the comic strip doesn't indicate that he always repeats nine.

If you want some outstanding nitpicking, why's the tour-guide red in the last panel when before that he was brown and the RNG red?

[bikes]

this is tits.

[jackvance]

It is kinda shitty nitpicking though because the comic strip doesn't indicate that he always repeats nine.

On the contrary, it was humor of the most genius level. He does not need to repeat only 9s for there to be a dependency on too many 9s and not random. It's like the level 2 response to the level 1 joke of the comic which is that any short series could be part of a larger random series which was itself poking fun at the level 0 observation people intuitively make that numbers need to quickly alternate for it to appear random to the untrained eye.

[bode]

Old Vets would die a slow death if they had come back to FTR and seen what is becoming of the Randomness thread.

Coincidentally, I just logged in for the first time this year and yeah...

But what's up everyone?

[Chelle]

ass and titties, ass, ass, and titties.

[Chelle]

omgomgomgomg final draft of essay to apply to college FINISHED.

[bikes]

no matter how crappy i feel due to w/e /r/tumblrinaction makes me nearly fall out of my chair laughing.

[bikes]

confirmed weeknd and ellie. instead of being in horrendous pain i would much rather be high for this.

[bikes]

[03:15pm] [bikes] A FUNGAL AND SKIN INFECTION
[03:15pm] [bikes] DHSKGAHDGS:KALJ:
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO PAIN KILLERS EITHER
[03:15pm] [bikes] SHE SAYS THERE WILL BE LOTS OF PAIN
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO SHIT

[bigred]

[03:15pm] [bikes] A FUNGAL AND SKIN INFECTION
[03:15pm] [bikes] DHSKGAHDGS:KALJ:
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO PAIN KILLERS EITHER
[03:15pm] [bikes] SHE SAYS THERE WILL BE LOTS OF PAIN
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO SHIT

Too much fapping imo

[spoonitnow]

[03:15pm] [bikes] A FUNGAL AND SKIN INFECTION
[03:15pm] [bikes] DHSKGAHDGS:KALJ:
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO PAIN KILLERS EITHER
[03:15pm] [bikes] SHE SAYS THERE WILL BE LOTS OF PAIN
[03:15pm] [bikes] NO SHIT

irc.esper.net #flopturnriver come get some

[spoonitnow]

Will people please stop asking me if I have nudes of Chelle? I probably do, but I'm not sharing them unless I like you.

[jyms]

Any chance you like me/?

[bikes]

my liking of you increased when i saw banned under chipeaterman's name

[jyms]

I didn't pull the trigger but I banged the gavel

[spoonitnow]

my liking of you increased when i saw banned under chipeaterman's name

++1

[spoonitnow]

Any chance you like me/?

I mean if she says it's cool then it's whatever, but I'm not even sure if I have any good ones anymore.

[bigred]

Ladies, this is why you don't send or allow for nudes to be taken and stored.

[Chelle]

Nope.

[Savy]

Chelle, any nudes of spoon?

[Chelle]

Nah.

o dat spoon, knowin' how to troll.