06-13-2020 11:50 AM
#28501
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06-13-2020 11:50 AM
#28502
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06-13-2020 11:51 AM
#28503
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06-13-2020 11:53 AM
#28504
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I agree, but those protecting it are perhaps worried that it might not be someone dabbing some letters on it next time. If someone feels strongly enough about it to put themself at risk to protect it, fair play to them. Many of these people are vets, they're not all dickheads singing Ingerland. | |
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06-13-2020 11:53 AM
#28505
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06-13-2020 11:54 AM
#28506
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06-13-2020 11:55 AM
#28507
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06-13-2020 11:57 AM
#28508
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The police are guarding the cenotaph and Churchil statues 24/7. No-one else is needed there, certainly not to throw shit at the cops who are there to defend the very same things they claim to be defending themselves lol. | |
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06-13-2020 11:59 AM
#28509
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That's what I actually think, they are literally bored football fans who just want something to do, kick off with the police. | |
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06-13-2020 12:00 PM
#28510
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06-13-2020 12:00 PM
#28511
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There were vets, but if the police were doing their job, the vets will go home. | |
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06-13-2020 12:05 PM
#28512
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Please try to pull it back from pushing buttons, guys. | |
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06-13-2020 12:06 PM
#28513
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06-13-2020 12:09 PM
#28514
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06-13-2020 12:11 PM
#28515
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Poop thinks the far right = football twats. | |
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06-13-2020 12:11 PM
#28516
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mojo, this isn't an issue. We're playing nice. | |
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06-13-2020 12:13 PM
#28517
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I think there's a huge amount of people just saying "the far right" to describe anyone who looks stupid and hard. | |
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06-13-2020 12:22 PM
#28518
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So 1620 was a shitfest too? | |
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06-13-2020 12:42 PM
#28519
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People vandalise statues - protesters. | |
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06-13-2020 12:52 PM
#28520
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Yeah the same BBC that was bending over backwards to defend Johnson up until about two weeks ago, suspending that woman who made that editorial about Cummings, saying the BBC 'can't be biased'. | |
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06-13-2020 01:41 PM
#28521
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Yep, the same BBC. So what's their game? It's definitely not honest journalism. | |
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06-13-2020 03:32 PM
#28522
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Getting clicks, I imagine. | |
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06-13-2020 03:58 PM
#28523
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You imagine wrong. The BBC don't care about clicks, they don't have advertisers to worry about. The BBC is funded by the taxpayer. | |
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06-13-2020 04:06 PM
#28524
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They're still being manned by people who consider themselves journalists afaict. So for them getting clicks is probably a form of reward, like a dog getting a treat. | |
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06-13-2020 07:04 PM
#28525
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https://twitter.com/BenTheTim/status...68592225746944 | |
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06-13-2020 07:06 PM
#28526
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I can't lie, I laughed at this. And today's breakdance winner is... | |
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06-13-2020 07:19 PM
#28527
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Doubling down with the second beat up white person? I'm sure it's a black conspiracy why it's harder to find these examples. | |
06-13-2020 07:31 PM
#28528
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Those videos, just like most other ones like it, could use some more context. Where these white people just minding their business before these incidents? Why were they there? If they were attacked unprovoked, obviously that's fucked up. The videos as they are are hardly proof of systematic widespread racism against whites. | |
06-13-2020 08:06 PM
#28529
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I mean, it's lose lose, isn't it? I either post more clips, and I'm doubling down, or I don't, and I'm refusing to provide evidence. | |
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06-13-2020 08:18 PM
#28530
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Let me be clear so you can decide how extreme I am. | |
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06-13-2020 08:26 PM
#28531
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This is like a game of "spot the cunt". | |
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06-13-2020 08:28 PM
#28532
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The problem is that some racist black people feel empowered by this BLM movement. | |
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06-13-2020 08:33 PM
#28533
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If a white guy is jumped by black guys and he beats them up, is he racist? Asking for a friend. | |
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06-14-2020 04:21 AM
#28534
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It's funny how certain movements like BLM are considered divisive by some because they focus on the most oppressed group. | |
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06-14-2020 04:47 AM
#28535
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It's not about the focus on just one group. It's also about the tactics. | |
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06-14-2020 04:53 AM
#28536
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As for what's "socially acceptable", it's not what you personally think "I'm ok with that", that's what you find personally acceptable. Socially acceptable means society turns a blind eye. | |
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06-14-2020 05:05 AM
#28537
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06-14-2020 05:15 AM
#28538
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Did you google "WWII leaders" yet? | |
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06-14-2020 05:17 AM
#28539
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That perfectly proves my point, thank you. Society effectively turned a blind eye to police racism for decades. It's only in the last few years it's finally reached a flash point. | |
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06-14-2020 05:17 AM
#28540
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06-14-2020 05:27 AM
#28541
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06-14-2020 05:28 AM
#28542
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06-14-2020 05:38 AM
#28543
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06-14-2020 05:49 AM
#28544
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Not all of society, but enough that it kept on happening over and over. | |
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06-14-2020 08:50 AM
#28545
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06-14-2020 09:04 AM
#28546
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Picture of the day... | |
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06-14-2020 09:09 AM
#28547
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06-14-2020 09:15 AM
#28548
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Oh ok didnt have the sound on first time. I heard "[unintelligble, something] slavery". Can you translate that dialect for us? | |
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06-14-2020 09:17 AM
#28549
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06-14-2020 09:21 AM
#28550
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Was it "stupid." and "four hundred years of slavery." he was saying? | |
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06-14-2020 09:42 AM
#28551
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Poop is willing to blindly believe that someone singing "Ingerland" while holding an arm in the air is doing a Nazi salute, but needs more context when a black guy is kicking a white guy in the head while saying "something something slavery". | |
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06-14-2020 10:04 AM
#28552
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They weren't singing that, and there were a bunch of them holding their palms up. You say it's some Ingerland salute (whatever that is), which is good enough for me. | |
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06-14-2020 10:14 AM
#28553
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We're talking about this, right? | |
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06-14-2020 10:15 AM
#28554
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Watching that back, there looks like there *might* be one seig heil at the front. Maybe. The arm that goes up quickly and then straight back down, that's a bit fishy. | |
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06-14-2020 10:16 AM
#28555
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Actually, no I take that back. He does it twice, while looking around. Not a seig heil. | |
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06-14-2020 10:25 AM
#28556
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Ok, whatever you say. | |
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06-14-2020 10:52 AM
#28557
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06-14-2020 11:43 AM
#28558
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Ong, you have to realize yourself that your position is really weak. You have some pictures and videos with no context and you're trying to construct a story around them that fits your narrative. Meanwhile on the side of BLM protests there are hundreds separate instances of police brutality, very few of which are lacking context or leave much room for interpretation. | |
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06-14-2020 11:46 AM
#28559
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Of course it makes a difference. If someone is walking by and you jump them for being white, that's an unprovoked attack and wholly indefensible. If that same person walks by, gives you a few sieg heils, and asks you what your problem is while calling you the n-word, that's a different matter. | |
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06-14-2020 11:50 AM
#28560
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Moreover, you still haven't shown b-on-w violence is either a) increasing or b) socially acceptable. So you can argue all you want about what happened in the video you posted; it still doesn't prove anything. | |
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06-14-2020 11:53 AM
#28561
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06-14-2020 12:20 PM
#28562
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I literally just told you those football fans have done nothing to prove they are racist, and yet you still call them racist. | |
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06-14-2020 03:22 PM
#28563
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06-14-2020 03:28 PM
#28564
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Like I say, insincere. You know full well that my "bored football twats" comment was aimed at the dickheads singing "Ingerland". Is Boris specifically calling these guys "racist" thugs? No he's not. And you know it. You know exactly why you're being insincere. | |
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06-14-2020 03:36 PM
#28565
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Oh I'm so sorry, I didn't realize you were only talking about a certain picture where you somehow know that theyre all football fans, which presumably precludes them from also being racist. | |
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06-14-2020 03:56 PM
#28566
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It appears everything needs to be slowly explained to you. I'm sorry this wasn't obvious to you... | |
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06-14-2020 03:58 PM
#28567
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Being a football fan doesn't preclude someone from being racist, nor does it make someone racist. I'm sure some of those guys are racist, I'm also sure some are not. The footage in question does not tell us anything about racism. That's why it's highly insincere to keep calling them racists. | |
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06-14-2020 04:10 PM
#28568
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You both keep pretending that anyone is not racist, and that's probably the biggest problem in this whole thing. | |
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06-14-2020 04:21 PM
#28569
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That's pretty much what I was trying to say and allude to when talking about it a page or 2 earlier, you summed it up far more eloquently. | |
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06-14-2020 04:28 PM
#28570
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We started at the point that Ong claims b-on-w racism is both increasing, and is socially acceptable. The rest of the convo is just him trying to change the subject to make me seem like the one making claims without evidence about a single video (which I admitted to already), or telling me to go research his claim for him. | |
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06-14-2020 04:30 PM
#28571
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06-14-2020 07:38 PM
#28572
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We're not all racist. You're overdefining racism. Not everyone thinks their race is superior, not everyone discriminates against others based on race. That's what racism is. | |
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06-14-2020 07:39 PM
#28573
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I have racial biases. That's not necessarily racism. | |
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06-14-2020 10:00 PM
#28574
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If you know what I'm saying and you argue with the words I chose to adequately speak my meanings to you, | |
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06-15-2020 01:46 AM
#28575
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Not everyone wears capes or swastikas, or thinks other races are worthless, those are extreme positions. A more moderate position would be that some colors are genetically less intelligent, and an even less severe position would be that some colors are better at maths. It's a spectrum, all part of the same issue. Just because someone doesn't hold extreme beliefs doesn't mean their position doesn't negatively affect someone, and on a societal level even moderate positions turn into systemic racism. | |
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